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[miltiades]

Kikapu , my dear friend , stoning a human to death is BARBARIC , PRIMITIVE , DISGUSTING. Those who throw a stone at a woman's head while she is buried to her neck are savages and if their sadistic actions are due to religious beliefs then those religious beliefs are barbaric. For fucks sake how can any human throw stones at a person buried up to to the neck and see blood squirting out Do your self a favour and pay a visit to Dr.Ali Sinas site.

[Socrates]

For greek readers here are 3 articles by one of my favourite authors in Greece, even if at times i disagree with him:

http://www.medium.gr/articles/115323188215415.shtml

http://www.medium.gr/articles/115331836694322.shtml

http://www.medium.gr/articles/115349814687188.shtml

Good reading

I agree in the biggest part of those articles and if I’m not mistaken the well known atheist Jew author Amos Oz was spoken against the Zionism and like I know very well the Zionists of America have much hate for the Jews of Israel (it’s another big issue). I will not agree in the part that the responsible for anti-Semitism was only or mainly from Christians even the Napoleon and Voltaire and many other atheists have spoken against the Judaist insanity even Carl Marx (whop was a Jew) have spoke for the Judaist sickness and the sickness of Christians witch was based on the Judaism and their antihuman psychotic behavior.

Is not so simple to make the Jews simple victims in fact they are victimizers and the root of this human virus but in this case they have absolute right because their sickness have evolved in something much worst and we can’t react in this matters with religion criteria and we must be ready to face the reality.

[Kikapu]

Kikapu , my dear friend , stoning a human to death is BARBARIC , PRIMITIVE , DISGUSTING. Those who throw a stone at a woman's head while she is buried to her neck are savages and if their sadistic actions are due to religious beliefs then those religious beliefs are barbaric. For fucks sake how can any human throw stones at a person buried up to to the neck and see blood squirting out Do your self a favour and pay a visit to Dr.Ali Sinas site.

Miltiades,

Well, of course is disgusting, brutal, and inhumane. I don't know why you think anyone on this forum supports that. The only thing me and few other are saying is, look, something just as bad also happens, only the method of killing is different, goes on, what one would expect to be more civilized countries in the West. You have people gather around and watch a men get electrocuted, with smoke coming out of his ears ( I'm guessing ), then go and get a ice cream afterwards.

[cypezokyli]

i am not going to respond any more to you miltiades bc you are arguments are getting pathetic!
on what grounds do you refer to me as a communist ?
thats the typical cypriot. you just put a label and you thing you are through.
ii am reaching the conclusion your rediculous arguments about me either loving hizpolah or hating the states , (something that i explicitly said the opposite up to now) , is simply a concequence of your inability to read and comprehend. as simple as that!
i challange you to go back and find the words that you are putting into my mouth
"communist, hizpollah admirer , US hater etc etc"

I CHALLANGE YOU MILTIADES

do you know what that is called ?
the word comes from a very civilized state
it is called maccarthyism...

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a last, question : how many lebenese children have to die from israeli bombs before you admit that israel (besides hizpollah), is also a human rights violator ?

just put a number there , i am extremely curious.

[miltiades]

Kikapu wrote , in response to "stoning by death"

""something just as bad also happens, only the method of killing is different, ""

Precisely this type of parallel that the terrorists through out the world have used to justify their heinous crimes.
It is a state of mind that many many people use and will always use. To give an example on how ridiculous your analogy is , its like equating the theft of loaf of bread and the theft of a million pounds both are considered stealing , or the rape of a baby to the rape of a woman , both rapes.
How can any civilized human find it in their heart to say what you have said above. Yes you say its inhumane , and disgusting butt look old chap the Americans are doing the same thing only using different methods. Kikapu , there is not one iota of similarity between the two , stoning by death is not only a brutal and primitive act it is a barbaric act that the entire world condemns and does not equate with the methods used in America , ie electric chair.

[miltiades]

Cypezokyli , you have opened up your curriculum vitae on many occasions. You have equated suicide killers to EOKA freedom fighters , you stated that in Cyprus at the time of EOKA , we did not have foreign workers or Video cameras , insinuating that had we had both of these factors in place the the EOKA fighters would have abducted and killed foreign aid workers , filming them and then posting on to their web site their macabre acts.
You show tolerance towards people that we in Cyprus specifically have absolutely nothing to gain by supporting and a lot to lose.Typical Cypriot /Greek approach. A cold blooded murderer is a murderer full stop. No comparisons , ah ,he did this horrible act but what else can he do , look how provoked he is.
No , matey ,Hezbollah , Hamas are the ones causing all the killing of innocent people . They have never accepted the right of Israel to exist they have as their number one priority the destruction of the Israeli state. Israel retaliates , disproportionately as every body says , the Jews don't think so.

Frankly I do not wish to respond any further to your ridiculuos comparisons , analogies etc

[cypezokyli]

the terrorist - freedom fighter question strictly depends on where one stands.
EOKA is for as a freedom group
for ht british (the westerners) it was a terrorist group
for the tcs (if you bothered to read what they write) it was a terrorist group

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how many children have to die from civilized israeli bombs , before you admit that israel is a violator of human rights ?

does killing few tenths of terrorists worths the lives of over 100 children ?

how many more children deaths will you support miltiadi ?

[cypezokyli]

ANNAN IS LYING!!!

SECRETARY-GENERAL APPEALS FOR URGENT ACTION TO ALLEVIATE


DESPERATE HUMANITARIAN SITUATION IN GAZA



Following is the statement by UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan on the situation in Gaza, issued in Berlin on 8 July:

As I have repeatedly stated, I am extremely concerned about the dangerous situation in the Occupied Palestinian Territory. I am appealing for urgent action to alleviate the desperate humanitarian situation of the civilian population. The Israeli air strikes on Gaza’s only power plant have had a far-reaching impact on Gaza’s hospitals, flour mills, and water and sanitation systems. The strict controls imposed during the past weeks on the passage of basic products into Gaza, including fuel, have aggravated the difficulties of the population. A statement issued earlier today by United Nations humanitarian agencies operating in the Occupied Palestinian Territory provides more details on the situation.

To address shortages of basic foodstuffs, and to maintain essential health and sanitation services, I call on the Government of Israel to restore and maintain the continuous and uninterrupted supply of fuel to Gaza, and to act expeditiously to replace the destroyed equipment at the Gaza power plant. The passage of foodstuffs and other essential supplies through the Karni commercial crossing should be ensured, and restrictions on movement and access for United Nations agencies should be lifted forthwith. Such steps should be without prejudice to the need to implement in full the Access and Movement Agreement of 15 November 2005.

I reiterate my appeal to all concerned to exercise maximum restraint and to respect their obligations under international humanitarian law.

http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs//2006 ... 57.doc.htm

annan is wrong. the only power plant supported terrorists.

hospitals , water supply, an the rest of those crap are irrelevant.

we should change him , and put a civilized westerner

[cypezokyli]

turkey wants to do the same. i wonder which arguement can be used against that

On the one hand, the United States condemns terrorism and takes concrete steps to counter it, and on the other, it just watches the developments unfold in the Middle East. This behavior makes it ugly and untrustworthy.


In conclusion, we need to secure our border with Iraq and then fight the terrorists within the country. If the necessary measures are taken, we don't need the help of either the United States or Iraqi President Jalal Talabani. We may use our right to defend ourselves, but the fight within our borders should always take precedence. We need to play the game according to the rules and be careful at a time when there is a bloodbath in the Middle East.

why not ?

[miltiades]

""Inevitably in any conflict innocent people will be killed , including children. I consider the killing of innocent people to be the most horrendous and despicable act regardless who the perpetrators are.Unfortunately , war is the culprit here because that is what war does it kills and maims innocent little lives.So let us see why this beast , the war that is , is happening.
The Hezbollah doctrine to wipe out Israel is the fuse that lights the bomb that starts the war that innocent people die. ""

The above is what I posted a day or so ago , it is self explanatory where I stand , no need to elaborate.