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[miltiades]

Kikapu , I have always supported the rights of the Palestinian people to have their own nation. Have never supported the occupation by Israel of Palestinian land. What you and Cypezokyli tend to dismiss is the right of Israel to exist , a right which both Hamas and Hezbollah are denying to accept.
The ends have never justified the means , and its precisely the means that I vehemently oppose.Let me put it to you that if the G/Cs , were fighting Turkeys ' occupation of their land and using suicide killers in Kyrenia,s restaurants , hotels , cemeteries , wedding festivals , and firing indiscriminately at towns and villages , and if Cypezokyli used the same analogy he uses for these savages , I would be the first one to call the G/Cs barbarians. The sanctity of life is of paramount importance and the taking of life indiscriminately using the excuse , what else can we do , is not valid.Fight your enemy , not your enemy's civilians. In the late 50s early 60s many civilians lost their life in Cyprus in the hands of fanatics who shared similar ideologies to the present day murderers.

[cypezokyli]

What you and Cypezokyli tend to dismiss is the right of Israel to exist , a right which both Hamas and Hezbollah are denying to accept.

would you kindly refrain from putting words in my and in that respect kikapus mouth ?

The ends have never justified the means

i will assume that it is my low english knowledge.
is the end (destroying hizpollah) justifies the means ( over 100 children dead, complete disctruction of a countries infrustructure ? )

i am still waiting for you to comment , on annans comment.....and please this time not london attacks...

[Kikapu]

Kikapu , I have always supported the rights of the Palestinian people to have their own nation. Have never supported the occupation by Israel of Palestinian land. What you and Cypezokyli tend to dismiss is the right of Israel to exist , a right which both Hamas and Hezbollah are denying to accept.
The ends have never justified the means , and its precisely the means that I vehemently oppose.Let me put it to you that if the G/Cs , were fighting Turkeys ' occupation of their land and using suicide killers in Kyrenia,s restaurants , hotels , cemeteries , wedding festivals , and firing indiscriminately at towns and villages , and if Cypezokyli used the same analogy he uses for these savages , I would be the first one to call the G/Cs barbarians. The sanctity of life is of paramount importance and the taking of life indiscriminately using the excuse , what else can we do , is not valid.Fight your enemy , not your enemy's civilians. In the late 50s early 60s many civilians lost their life in Cyprus in the hands of fanatics who shared similar ideologies to the present day murderers.

Now, where did you ever read me saying that I oppose the existance of Israel. All these small groups of militants say they want to destroy Israel, which the Israelis themselves that give plenty of reasons for them to say that. Israel is the worlds 4th strongest military, so are you seriously worried that, anyone is going to remove Israel from where they are, but the militants they are not going to "play dead", and be pushed around . Ironic isn't it, that the militants are the "David" and Israel is the "Goliath". Can't you have respect for those who are willing to die to save their race and their people from the oppressors, which something we in the West do not seem to understand, because we pay others ( our military ) to do our killing for us, while we sip our coffee from the comforts of our homes. Yes, that really shows how much courage we have and how the hell we would defend our country if we did not have a paid military to do it for us.

[Socrates]

I don’t like the Jews but the invasion in Lebanon is well justified and their own president have point that issue of the involvement of Hezbollah and Syria and some other Muslim crap in their government. While this religion fanatics are empowered by governments there will be always problem and there is no peaceful way to deal with this. I don’t have time to say more (maybe some other time). Here is one very interesting article about the involvement of outlaw crap in the Lebanon government.

http://www.politis.com.cy/cgibin/hweb?- ... -V=columns

And like always we (Cypriots) are overreacting about the injustice of the one side and we make this our own problem like we have done with the Persians when we’ve fight with them against Greece, here is another one example of the Cypriots eastern stupidity:

http://www.politis.com.cy/cgibin/hweb?- ... columns&-p

[cypezokyli]

i perfectly agree with the above article , bc it is in a position to abserve that both sides are to blame

[Socrates]

Hezbollah is a sick organization with religion psychopaths they are no after of any logical goal, their aim is to destroy Israel for paranoiac religion reasons like Hamas, this poor people of this organizations have their minds foul of shit and they believe in the Tzihant were this stupid god will help this mindless fanatics to destroy (and ruled by the stupid Allah) world and win the Christianity and Judaism stupid god Giahve, they don’t have any justice on their aims except their religion bullshits. Palestine must be recognized as a legal nation if the Hamas bullshits will be destroyed because they are the problem, the civilized world can’t recognize some religion psychopaths and their stupid theocracy as legal nation. I blame the Jews for all this bullshits because Muslim and Christian shit is their own creation is the creation of their own sickness but no one can have religion goals in the civilized world.

They are(the sick Jews) in that area for more than 2000 years is the place were they have build their sickness and is their place and this stupid religions must be separated from the governments, we are no longer in the middle ages and this madness must stop.

If the Palestine wants to be recognized, they will, if they drop this madness in their stupid paranoia history like we’ve did.

When Jiaser Arafat and the organization behind him have agreed to bring peace in the area and leave behind this madness some other stupid fanatics with the name Hamas arise from the madness basket of the Muslim sickness and make big steps behind from peace.

Like the Greeks used to say: Ta thelei o kolos tous.

In this problem can’t be a peaceful political solution the only solution is the education and to make this mindless people to realize what religions are made from psychopaths and they are responsible for an ocean of blood and these stupid gods can’t be the real gods. There is no bloodthirsty god and this stupidity is a pure Judaism bushtit, no other religion of the history of the religions had ever taught such a sickness.

Their enemy is from Israel but this enemy is their own stupid religion and they have to realize that and we have the responsibility to not let them to destroy the world like some other Judaist religion psychopaths (Christians) did beffore.

The religions madness HAVE NO RIGHT they are sick and that is how we must treat them until they realize this fact.

I’ve mood today to stole some of my time to write about this madness but I know what this is a meaningless killing of my time, because to realize what this sickness is all about we must criticize with logic this psycho holly books and their history and this is tough quest for a skeptic and to do that I’ve to spend some months even some years to analyze the sickness in this stupid books.

[miltiades]

Cyperzokyli , the article above was written with you in mind and the likes of you who as the article calls arabades.
Once again we are joining forces with the losers of this world, you have expressed in many ways your full understanding of the "mullahs" actions , you have compared the 55 EOKA to the sucide killers , you have used parallels to describe and justify their despicable medieval acts of brutality.
I do not read Cypriot papers but I'm about to start reading Politics and especially articles by Kostas Konstantinou.
Let me make it clear that I do not belong to any political party in Cyprus and neither do I ever want to until such time that all Cypriots embrace the Cypriot identity and become one nation again.

Can I finish by asking you to consider that scoring own goals has been the KATARA of Cyprus and more so of Greece.
Joining forces with the underdogs has always been our cherished prerogative . America bushing has been going on for years and then we wonder why we do not enjoy the support we think we deserve.

Long live America and the Western world.

[miltiades]

Have also just read the Article in POLITIS by Yiangou Mikkelide , a brilliant article that mirrors my views entirely,
especially this bit " I hope history does not repeat it self and we kill Onisilo , reunite with the Persians , Hamas , Iraqi extremists Ben Laden against the European philosophy. ""

Well Mr Mikellide , for some Cypriots its too bloody late , they adore the Iraqi "ANTARTES " the Hamas THRILIKOUS POLEMISTES , and not forget their favourite at the moment , the holy men of Gods party.

[miltiades]

Socrates , my dear Vaftistike , you make a lot of sense , I'm proud of you son.

[Socrates]

EOKA was not as sick as the Muslim extremists but it’s relative to the eastern way.

The EOKA leaders had religion aims and they didn’t care a bit about the political situation of the area, they was after the absolute truth of their god even when Greece was against, because the politicians in Greece was living in the reality and not in some religion bullshit truth. The EOKA was not a liberation fight against the British like similar organizations (is the only one worldwide) because it was based in nationalistic criteria which was based in religions criteria, no other organization fighting for liberation had their religion for flag and same criteria, our leaders ideology was based on the Byzantium crap and were after the religion empire of the Byzantium (Megali Idea), because our psychopath priests greedy, were they had their only truth stupid god to guide them to gain again what some fouls (Kontantin the son of Helen) had give them in the past. The EOKA members made an expletive to the stupid god and the saint trinity (not the real saint trinity lira villa milla but the fake one with the saint spirit bullshit). EOKA had many similarities with the eastern way but it was theoretically much more justified, but the truth is out there and the religion madness and the eastern way are behind of our terrible situation.