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Akritas Plan, what was it?

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Bananiot » Tue Jul 11, 2006 11:29 pm

So Klerides is a fascist now! He bloody fought against the fascists and was cuptured when his plane was shot down over nazi Germany. Show some respect, at least.

You voted the same as Denktash and Eroglu and Lazaros Mavros and all EOKA B lackies. You voted for the Turkish army to remain for ever in Cyprus and you kid yourself that when the balance of power changes (sic) we will kick Turkey out of Cyprus. The damage you have done is unbelievable, you have condemned Cyprus to partition but I do not expect you to understand it for the acceptance of your actions will simply reign havoc to your life.

Socrates, be warned, only the super patriots of the forum have the royal prerogative to make slanderous remarks. I can see you bidding all goodbye soon. The dye has rolled.
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Postby Socrates » Tue Jul 11, 2006 11:35 pm

I see some one screwed and I really hope what eventually they will have a second chance.

Vasiliou and Klirides was put us in Europe I don’t see any screwed in their policy.

Klirides he was worst from the two if we think the great action of the s300 he would never even had a thought about this and I’m not blame him what he was not eventually bring them.

The accusations about Kliridis and EOKA B are simple bullshits and only of the fact what he was not accepted to be the fake president of EOKA B.

The both of them ware the best presidents we’ve had from the start of RoC.

Kliridis have made a lot of mistakes and some of them are the big fake words and the nationalistic illusion that his party encourage all this years.

But I’ve vote him and if he will reborn I’ll vote him again and everyone else able to bring a solution.

and i have onother one message from the admin and i belive what this is another example of our great democracy. :lol: i'm going to read it and just in case i've to say what the admin is very funny :!:
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Postby Socrates » Wed Jul 12, 2006 1:54 am

Denktash and Eroglu and Lazaros Mavros


While I have the ability to criticized this psychopaths I will do it.

And I have to answer to Piratis about Viewpoint.

If he is a supporter of Ntektash he is also a psychopath who doesn’t know and can’t accept his mistakes and his stupid existence like Pirates.

But since our side was always playing the innocent virgin and was always the victim and the favorite of the UN and Europe I have to speak more about this sick person who call him self a patriot and I’m speaking about Lazaros Mavros.

Here is the answer of Drousiotis in his lies and his stupidity.

http://www.makarios.ws/cgibin/hweb?-A=7 ... -w=ΑΚΡΙΤΑΣ@

Makarios Drousiotis sue him about this issue and he challenges him to a public discussion and as all this psychopath transsexual patriots does. He prefer to spread accusations with out hearing the other part.

Makarios Drousiotis was banned from almost all the media and no one dares to face him in a public discussion.

And this transsexual patriots who can face their responsibility and the dialogue they will fight the Turks. :lol: :lol:

If there are traitors between as all this psychopaths are.
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Postby miltiades » Wed Jul 12, 2006 9:54 am

I'm one Cypriot who has never voted in any Cypriot elections , who has never been a supporter of any political party , who has never involved himself in party political discussions , but has expressed and continues to express views not biased by political affiliations but influenced totally by the interpretation of events that makes more logical sense and understanding. I honestly can not even name more than half a dozen members of the RoC government. I don't particularly believe that they are politicians worth remembering. I respect their position and I'm highly critical of them when it comes to foreign policies.
Mr Klerides was the man who during those dark hours of 1974 stood tall and unruffled drawing on his pipe and holding what was left of Cyprus at that time. He was respected by the International community and I have alwasy respected his political thinking.
I opposed the AP , not because I listened to our politicians , but because I believed that this plan did not have the fundamental recipes required in order for the ensuing agreements to be successful and long lasting. I'm totally convinced that acceptance would have led to inter communal strife that would cause much suffering in our country with further "interventions " by Foreign powers. The plan was doomed to fail .
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Postby Piratis » Wed Jul 12, 2006 11:06 am

So Klerides is a fascist now! He bloody fought against the fascists and was cuptured when his plane was shot down over nazi Germany. Show some respect, at least.


Good that you stopped hiding your true colors. Don't claim that you do not support DISY next time, it is obvious what kind of far right ideologies you support. Respect for Cleredes? The person who harbored the traitors of EOKA B and now he tried to betray us again by selling off our country? Respect such person?? You must be kidding me!! His alliance has always been with UK/USA and never with Cyprus.

You voted the same as Denktash and Eroglu and Lazaros Mavros and all EOKA B lackies.


You voted the same as EOKA B leaders. Go to Grivas memorials and you will see all your friends there. Who are you kidding now?

As far as Denctash goes, he voted "no" because he wanted a different kind of partition, not because he shared our view for democracy and human rights. You are in fact very close to Denctash who once used to ask for confederation. We are the exact opposite of Denctash.

You voted for the Turkish army to remain for ever in Cyprus and you kid yourself that when the balance of power changes (sic) we will kick Turkey out of Cyprus. The damage you have done is unbelievable, you have condemned Cyprus to partition but I do not expect you to understand it for the acceptance of your actions will simply reign havoc to your life.

If we had voted "yes" now Cyprus would have been legally partitioned with the disguised partition of Annan plan and we would be in the process of going bankrupt. After going bankrupt we would have followed the path of Serbia Montenegro. Wake up Bananiot, wake up. You can't see further than your nose.
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Re: Akritas

Postby cypezokyli » Thu Jul 13, 2006 12:10 am

Iran Forever wrote:Whatever Akritas was, I just wish it would have been carried out....


:shock: :shock: :shock:

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Postby miltiades » Thu Jul 13, 2006 12:18 am

Piratis , I'm a Cypriot first and foremost , but I stand shoulder to shoulder with the USA , Britain and The Western world. Kliredis I believe also did so. Now you can criticise Miltiades for supporting the interests of Cyprus above all , and for Cyprus I would go to bed with the devil. Definitely not with Cuba , Iran , Iraq , and the other non-entities that we always seem to forge an alliance with. IPER PANTON OLON TA SIMFERONTA TIS KIPROU.
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Postby andri_cy » Thu Jul 13, 2006 2:22 am

Kifeas wrote:
Piratis wrote:Kifeas, I think you pay too much attention to that loser. He is just trying to attract attention and believing that he can harm Cyprus in that way.

When some people can not be create anything they are trying to attract attention by being destructive. They hate it when others progress in life and they don't, and they therefore try to harm everybody around them as a revenge. This is a typical loser behavior. Let him bark.


Piratis, the thing is no one in this or any other country I know has the right to accuse someone of being a murderer or a criminal, publicly, and without providing any evidence to substantiate such a claim. This person knows well that what he does here, he cannot do it in any other way in which his anonymity is not safeguarded, i.e. in a public gathering of people, newspaper, TV, radio or any other media, because he will be asked to prove it, or will be arrested and charged. Not only in this country, but in any other country I know! This is not a matter of expressing an opinion on some or any political or other issue. It is a direct slanderous and unsubstantiated accusation, and it is an illegal act according to the laws of this country.

He does it here, obviously because of cowardy and simply because he feels he can hide behind anonymity! However, the forum that allows this illegality to take place is also committing an illegality for providing the platform for this to occur, without taking measures for the law to be respected.

I believe the Administrator should ban such coward slanderers!


Actually, in a lot of countries you can accuse anyone of being whatever without having to back it up. But they can of course sue your a$$ later and take you to the cleaners. The right to express yourself is a right and a responsibility. The freedom to expression is essential but of course many times people hide behind it. The thing is that I believe Socates is such a believe in what he says that I dont think he would have a problem saying it on TV with his name under his face-or would he?
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Postby andri_cy » Thu Jul 13, 2006 2:28 am

Bananiot wrote:Many people, not only Makarios Droushiotis, have stated openly and transparently that Papadopoulos is the author and vice leader of Akritas. Papadopoulos, who is known to sue people for nothing, has done nothing about it. Simply, all the tv stations and government controlled papers have banished Droushiotis from the face of the earth.

Papadopoulos has also been accused of being "Defkalion" the person who gave the green light for the execution of leftists during the EOKA struggle, especially around 1957. The families of these murdered innocent people are still pushing to clear their names for they still bear the brand of traitors to their countries. Papadopoulos has been authorising their elimination (especially in the Famagusta districk and the list includes boys and girls) and he was boasting about it in the magazine "Egertirion Salpisma" which anyone can read and admire our President.

In 1964, Papadopoulos referred specifically to the Akritas Plan when he sent a letter to the American Ambassador in Nicosia, warning him that if the Turkish Fleet approaches to within a certain distance from the shores of Cyprus, we would erase from the face of the earth the Turkish Cypriots. He says in his letter "we have the Plan and the means to do so".



It doesnt matter if he has sued anyone r not. I dont really like Papadopoulos and all but you cant expect a president to resign just because someone is accusing him of something. If that were the case presidents would resign all over the planet. If anyone has hard proof that he wrote the plan, of course he should be accountable for that, but it seems to me all we see and read is peoples' suspicions and no matter if they are right or not, without proof they are just that, suspicions and rumors. Last I checked rumors are not proof of anything.
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Postby cypezokyli » Thu Jul 13, 2006 7:47 am

andri_cy wrote:
Actually, in a lot of countries you can accuse anyone of being whatever without having to back it up.


starting from cyprus....and the head of they cypriot state , who despite the fact that he is a lawer he said the famous phrases :
"den einai aftoi pou apokalyptoun, alla aftoi pou ta pernoun pou prepai na dosoun stoiheia" :shock: :shock:
"na mi hreisimopoieite i diattriti aspida oti den yparhoun apodeixeis. polla synagonte ap ti symperifora , alla apo ti perireousa atmosphera"
:shock: :shock: :shock:

1. drousiotis has been sued a number of times up to now , from all the spektrum of nationalists , and i am not familiar with a case that he lost.
tpap , can sue him anytime if he wants.... if he is sure that he has a strong case :wink:

2. i dont see the reason why you people get upset when (as you claim) drousiotis accuses tpap with no evidence , when this is precisely the culture of our president . i mean if the president does it , then it is not wrong is it ? he, as the leader of cypriots, sets the paradigm of the cypriot political culture
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