Bananiot wrote:Kifeas is now playing the ... duck!
This is what I wrote:It is sad when one realises that the truth really has to fight in order to surface. Here we are talking about some very turbulent years in the recent history of Cyprus and seeing three people that later created havoc in Greece having a centre stage role in events and all we do is just bypass this. These people (Papadopoulos, Ioannides and Bonanos) would just knock on the door of Makarios and suggest things to him (okay, by coincidence, always their suggestions referred to the extermination of the Turkish Cypriots) and this is viewd as "legitimate scaremongering bluffing"! How pathetic!
Anyone can see which three men I referred to and I do not understand why Kifeas needs further explanations. Furthermore, would Kifeas like to admit now that President Papadopoulos was Defkalion? Perhaps he can tell us what Defkalion did in 1957. During the Kofinou operations, his Papadopoulos was a member of the politicomilitary council that planned the operation.
No Bananiot, I am not the one playing the duck! It is you that deliberately posts things in such a way as to live shadows against Papadopoulos, all the time! I re-quote what you wrote (and the way you designed and wrote it) and I live it to others to reach their own conclusions as to what you was trying to achieve with that post, which was nothing short of cunningly presenting a mix-up of various events and situations from different periods, so that you do what you always do against Papadopoulos (the president.) I.e. to intentionally mislead your readers into reaching conclusions towards a certain anti-papadopollos direction. Even in the your post right above, you continue misleading by claiming that Papadopoullos was among those that have designed the operation in Kofinou, even though you know that this is not the case.
Here it is!
Bananiot wrote:It is typical of all little fascists to try to character assasinate anyone who disagrees with their views by calling "traitor" and "paid agent". You might like to know Kikapu that me and Kifeas met face to face. We had dinner together and a beer. I have not shied away from forum meetings, both forums, this one and **.org, yet he claims that I make accusations hiding behind a pseudonym. I have given my real name to everyone that has sent me a private message, even the place I come from in the north.
Furthermore, I find it exceedingly boring and a total waste of time to go through documents, like the Akritas Plan or the Constitution and see only the legalistic messages contained while completely ignoring the huge political impact of these documents. It reminds me of the talk about rusfet, when a governemnt supporter was asked on Tv he said, "but the President does not allow rusfet" thus it cannot take place!
Today, I will press on with events in 1964 and 1967, to show the kind of man Papadopoulos was and see if he really acted within the letter and the spirit of the legal documents.
1. In August 1964, terrible things were taking place in Cyprus and turkey was on the verge of invading. Papadopoulos sent a message to the Americans saying that "if the Turkish armada enters to within 12 miles of Cyprus waters, this will be considered as the begining of the invasion. This will give us 75 minutes to rid Cyprus of the Turkish Cypriots so that we can defend our country. We have the Plan and the Means to do this".
2. In November 1967 the Greek National Guard attacked the Turkish Cypriot enclave at Kophinou. The National Guard was headed by the notorious Gregorious Bonanos (Head of Staff during the junta period in Greece). Again, Turkey threatened to intervene. On November 15, there was a meeting at the Presidential Palace of the political and army leadership. According to Bonanos, Papadopoulos suggested that if Turkey sent in the airforce or tried to land forces, all the Turkish Cypriots would be exterminated, throughout Cyprus.
The above show what kind of man Papadopoulos is and the role he played during those turbulent years. It also shows what kind of people ruled Cyprus then, basically all the scum that later became the "saviours" of Greece. Bonanos, Ioannides, Papadopoulos played leading roles in Cyprus and no doubt, together with their Greek Cypriot collaborators are solely responsible for our misfortunes.
The only way we could have saved Cyprus was to embrace the moderate Turkish Cypriots, who at the time were the vast majority and not try to sideline them because we had a secret agenda. Had we done this the bigots in their community would find no ground under their feet. Basically we sung to the tune the Turkish partitionists played and we got what we deserved. This is tough, but it is a tough world and looking at the truth straight in the eyes has not hurt anyone. If we do not want to make the same mistakes we need to accept the mistakes of the past, but, can you teach an old dog new tricks?
