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Architect arrested - does this really help the situation?

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Postby Piratis » Sat Jul 01, 2006 3:15 pm

Will arresting a murderer stop murders from happening? Will giving me a speeding ticket (like they did some months ago) stop people from speeding?

Should everybody be allowed to brake the laws because the laws will be in any way broken by some others??

If there is one flaw in the system is not that some are arrested, but that many more are not. If you told me that it is unfair to arrest just one person, I would agree with you. The answer to this is to arrest as many as they can. Now the gates are open they can sent secret police and find out the names of all people involved with such illegalities and then arrest them with the first chance.

The only thing we achieve is to dynamite the hate between us.


If somebody steals from you all that you have you will not seek justice because you would want the thief to love you?

I don't know about you, but I don't want to be loved because I am a victim and I accept to be exploited. I demand respect, love is optional. If they don't show respect then they should get what they deserve in return, which is what they get for the last 32 years. They could (and they still can today if the decide) to be equal Cypriot and European citizens. It is not my fault that just equal citizens is not enough for them and they insists on having gains on the loss of our human and democratic rights.
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Postby raymanuva » Sat Jul 01, 2006 3:36 pm

I agree, arresting that Architect is perfectly justified, end of story.
Now any other TC architect will think twice before taking a job.
Its a good demostration for others.

Next stage, pubic decapitation :)
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Postby Issy1956 » Sat Jul 01, 2006 3:43 pm

Pratis,
Are you really equating having some plans in your possesion with murder? This is a prime example of the GC admin using its police force to harass TC people in south. No need for this at all.
There is perfectly adequate legal recourse for your grievances at the ECHR or the local property commission. What are you going gain from this apart from persuading TC people that GC's and TC's cannot live together.
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Postby zoppovortoi » Sat Jul 01, 2006 3:44 pm

Piratis

Okay we can’t really communicate.

I’ll agree with you what our government can be more active in this problem but I still disagree to arresting the workers and not the bosses.

This will not doing anything more but dynamite the hate between us.

This is not serious actions and has nothing to do with the actual problem.

And for their rights of working and for their rights for the suffering that they have for the past 50+ years they can show to us their point of view.

We are unfortunately no longer in the position to accuse them for the no solution situation and this is the international reality and they can also speak about their own rights.
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Postby Kikapu » Sat Jul 01, 2006 3:46 pm

raymanuva wrote:I agree, arresting that Architect is perfectly justified, end of story.
Now any other TC architect will think twice before taking a job.
Its a good demostration for others.

Next stage, pubic decapitation :)


Why wasn't the architect arrested using Larnaca Airport, that is built on stolen land. It seems only fair that, all those who fly in and out of the airport, and all those that work there, also should be arrested. Do you have a problem with this suggestion, or "land stealing" only works one way.??
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Postby Bananiot » Sat Jul 01, 2006 3:56 pm

Miltiades, your insinuation, if I got it correct, is excellent!

The arrest of the architect and those to follow, remind me of the police that hide behind natural obstacles in order to fine unsuspecting drivers that speed past them or drive while speaking on their mobiles. Of course, here, the proof is indesputable and fines are paid without resorting to courts. However, according to criminal laws of all civil societies, everyone is assumed innocent until otherwise proven. Piratis, in his usual patriotic haste, has forgotten this and he is already preparing the hungman's rope. In a nutshell. We should embrace with love and care our Turkish Cypriot compatriots (and vice versa) rather than keep the prison option at the ready. That is, if we really want the two communities to come together at last. If not, then we can continue laying the traps and forget about reunification.
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Re: Architect arrested - does this really help the situation

Postby Bill » Sat Jul 01, 2006 3:57 pm

lysi wrote:If greedy people want to exploit and profit from property & land that has been stolen from greek cypriots then they should be arrested and prosecuted for theft.
Tess there is no justifing the theft of greek cypriot owned land & property.


I think we also have to consider the thousands of houses built on Turkish land in the ROC and I'm not talking about the refugee estates built post 1974 .

I'm talking villa style houses built in the last 4 years where the government has given a portion of TC land and a small grant / payment towards the building of a house -- which is still theft and exploiting TC owned land.

Some of these houses are bigger and better than I could ever afford to buy -- ok they will never have the title deeds but I can't see them being knocked down either.

Is it ok then for the builders and architects of these properties to be arrested if they cross over to the occupied part.

There are injustices on both sides although I admit most are on the occupied side of Cyprus as these properties are built on stolen land for sale to unsuspecting foreign buyers which thankfully will never happen in the ROC --- I'm aware it's already happened on a small scale a few years ago -- those responsible were arrested and dealt with and by all accounts will never happen again.

We should really be going for the sellers / buyers of stolen Greek land and properties as these are the ones doing the damage .

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Postby miltiades » Sat Jul 01, 2006 4:05 pm

Bananiot wrote :
""We should embrace with love and care our Turkish Cypriot compatriots (and vice verse) rather than keep the prison option at the ready."
I couldn't have put it better my self . Agree wholeheartedly .
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Re: Architect arrested - does this really help the situation

Postby Bill » Sat Jul 01, 2006 4:09 pm

oops ! pressed wrong button :oops:
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Postby Bill » Sat Jul 01, 2006 4:29 pm

miltiades wrote:Zoppovorto wrote
"this government has done to stop the building orgasm? ""
It rings a bell , cant quite recollect it , but I'm 60 after all !!


I can just about remember it --- but can't recollect if I enjoyed it or not :shock: :oops: :cry: :cry:

Reminds me of when a young lady came to check the water in my office -- I couldn't resist the comment "can you tell how many orgasms I've had since drinking this water" -- she blushed :oops: and left quickly :roll:

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