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[Piratis]

There is no perfect country. Problems exist in every country and we should always try to minimize them and move ahead.

The problems should never be ignored. However using those problems as an excuse to mass violate the human rights of all citizens is a very lame excuse.

Is the USA perfect? How would the Americans call an American citizen that said something in the lines off: "USA has x,y,z problems and therefore the killing 3000 innocent people on 9/11 is correct"?

Was Greece in 1940s perfect? (FAR from it) How would the Greeks call a Greek citizen that would claim: "Greece has x,y,z problems and therefore I am justified to collaborate with the Nazis to violate human rights, democracy and the freedom of Greece"?

People that use such lame excuses to excuse crimes against their own country are nothing short of traitors. Plain and simple.

If you have a problem with something in Cyprus then fight against that something. Come and tell us about it (not in the Cyprus Problem section) and you will have our support. But don't betray your country using that problem as a lame excuse. If you do, you will be a traitor and there are no excuses for treason.

[Viewpoint]

Piratis

If you have a problem with something in Cyprus then fight against that something. Come and tell us about it (not in the Cyprus Problem section) and you will have our support. But don't betray your country using that problem as a lame excuse. If you do, you will be a traitor and there are no excuses for treason.

What if no one listens? or you extend your hand and no one shakes it or even worse says its not even extende or just brushes your concerns to one side or displays an attitude of wanting to dominate and just reduce you to just any minority status in your own country.

[Piratis]

What if no one listens? or you extend your hand and no one shakes it or even worse says its not even extende or just brushes your concerns to one side or displays an attitude of wanting to dominate and just reduce you to just any minority status in your own country.

Go to ECHR or to other European courts and make a complain if you think that a human or legal right of yours is violated and that your own country can not serve justice.

Or maybe you prefer to decide by yourself what is just and right, and do things that are actually illegal, against human rights and against international law??

And I am asking you again: If a citizen of any other country was collaborating with a foreign invader to violate the human rights of 100s of thousands of innocent people (the majority) and the freedom of his own country, how would he be called? Would any excuses be accepted?

[Viewpoint]

You have taken this route and where has it gotten you?

It would depend very much on how I was treated and if I was was made to feel part of that country or a second class citizen who was not wanted and discriminated against.

[malaka]

Piratis

If you have a problem with something in Cyprus then fight against that something. Come and tell us about it (not in the Cyprus Problem section) and you will have our support. But don't betray your country using that problem as a lame excuse. If you do, you will be a traitor and there are no excuses for treason.

What if no one listens? or you extend your hand and no one shakes it or even worse says its not even extende or just brushes your concerns to one side or displays an attitude of wanting to dominate and just reduce you to just any minority status in your own country.

Make 200 000 people pay for it by forcing them out at gun point then selling off land and homes because 100 people did not shake your hand.

[datalife]

thank you view point and ban for hearing what i am saying. its really easy to sit on your high horse and pass judgement apon me malaka, but if you too were working 10 to 12 hours a day and were still having to budget the milk you give to your children then i think you would feel much the way i do.
my family also lost their land but as we were not in the country (and we have no title deeds) at the time we did not receive compensation like the rest. that doesn't really bother me as much as being treated as a second class citizen in my own country just because i am poor.......... being ill treated by my fellow countrymen just because i am an employee.
i hate the way when i ask for work i am passed over for a foreigner as the employer can get away with paying less.
all i want is a voice i don't want charity i want to be able to get decent work a decent pay and to be able to provide food for my children. you want to hear a story i too have one to tell but no i'm not a success story so perhaps mine will just fall on deaf ears.
my story is of a greek cypriot who has not risen to riches but still struggles along with all the foreign labour.
it is a sory of a person who has reached a stage of being happy that the food in the house has lasted an extra day this week but irony is that for it to have lasted this long means that my chidren have eaten less this week.
don't tell me about the cyprus problem that took place 30 years ago tell me about today and now
yes the turks were evil and heartless they stole our land killed our friends and relatives.
but again i ask you are we any better they hurt us we hurt them.
don't be blinded by history that is not the only problem that cyprus has.
don't live alone in the past crying for your dead and yet not seeing what is happening at your door step. what is happening right here and now to the poor people of this country who have to scratch and fight for work against all these younger foreigners who hardly have any expenses, whilst your country men are scratching out a meer existence.

[andri_cy]

So what is going on with the architect? Anyone know? Has he been released yet?

[cypezokyli]

from our friend sener levent
http://www.politis-news.com/cgibin/hweb ... columns&-p

[MR-from-NG]

A CLASSIC CASE OF SHOOTING THE MESSENGER.

It is a disgrace that this architect has been arrested. Your police, judges, politicians and all those who support the actions of the police and the courts should hang their heads in shame.

You have once again shown your true colours.

Reunification, peace, a final and just settlement with you guys is just not possible. And that, unfortunately is thank to you!!

[Bananiot]

Miltiades, I have no time to play the guessing game. I am prepare to listen to what datalife has to say and if he is a crook, so be it.

Mrfromng, the GC community is going through a very bad period. We are ruled by misanthropists, nationalists and rejectionists who unfortunately have managed to convince many people that this is the way to go about things. You are perfectly correct to say that reunification under the circumstances is not possible. Hopefully things will change, as Piratis says, when you see injustice you fight for justice!

P.S. Yesterday, I was walking downtown in Nicosia and infront of me there was a grown man wearing a t-shirt that said "the only good Turk is a dead Turk", but you also have the Grey Wolves who are no better. Our tragedy is that these people are allowed to exhibit their sick sentiments in an open and "transparent" way almost unchallenged.