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[Piratis]

ISTANBUL, June 29 (Reuters) - The Turkish lira inched lower on Thursday, slipping to 1.6185 against the dollar after the European Union's enlargement chief said the EU may suspend membership negotiations with Turkey.
Olli Rehn was quoted as saying that the EU may suspend negotiations with Ankara completely over its refusal to open its ports and airports to traffic from member state Cyprus.

Turkish lira retreated after these COMMENTS. I hope the Turkish politicians can understand the consequences on their economy and the chain reaction that would have on their whole country if they insist on choosing illegality and crimes in Cyprus over adjusting themselves to the EU principles and start respecting all 25 EU countries.

I think it is time for Ankara to abandon their middle age policies and move on to the 21st century. They have to realize that you can't commit crimes such as ethnic cleansing and land grab and get away with it without any consequences anymore. Otherwise, not only they will continue to cause suffering to others (Cypriots, Kurds etc) but they will be responsible for missing a chance to bring the Turkish citizens up to better European standards.

The current Turkish policies serve nobody apart from the Turkish army, and the Turkish Islamist fundamentalists.

[Kartal_Aetos]

now now, piratis...biased opinions do not lead to good intellectual discussion...did Greece suffer for ethnic cleansing in cyprus of TC's?

also, turkey's foreign policies have no connection with islam at all...they are political stances...

Turkey have made a good point. They refuse to do so until economic barriers towards TC's are lifted and i back this completely as my people are suffering due to trade embargoes and we are not able to turn our hard work in to better fortunes.

for everybody who is going to attack me now and say that i am a fascist and i am puppet of the turkish military, think again please...i believe that lifting the trade embargoes on TRNC is more likely to happen than peace in cyprus unfortunately due to the GC governments persistence on majority/minority status. they will never change their minds about that and we as TC's will never agree to live as a minority...

[Kikapu]

ISTANBUL, June 29 (Reuters) - The Turkish lira inched lower on Thursday, slipping to 1.6185 against the dollar after the European Union's enlargement chief said the EU may suspend membership negotiations with Turkey.
Olli Rehn was quoted as saying that the EU may suspend negotiations with Ankara completely over its refusal to open its ports and airports to traffic from member state Cyprus.

Turkish lira retreated after these COMMENTS. I hope the Turkish politicians can understand the consequences on their economy and the chain reaction that would have on their whole country if they insist on choosing illegality and crimes in Cyprus over adjusting themselves to the EU principles and start respecting all 25 EU countries. .

Piratis,

As long as I can remember, the Lira has never been stable against other currencies. Don't forget, only few years ago, the inflation was running at 80-90%, which was brought down to 10% for the last few years. The US dollar lost ground against the Euro by almost 30% in the last 3 years, but no one is running for cover, and the American economy, although not as good as Bush would like us all to believe, it is still fairly good in comparison to Europe, so I would not read too much into what the EU has said over Turkeys' stalling to open up it's ports to Cyprus.

[Piratis]

now now, piratis...biased opinions do not lead to good intellectual discussion...did Greece suffer for ethnic cleansing in cyprus of TC's?

Sure, Greece ethnically cleansed TCs, they performed the Armenian genocide, they burned down 100s of Kurdish villages etc.

Come on Kartal, stop trying to equate Greece with Turkey using lies. The Turkish invasion has ethnically cleansed 200.000 Greek Cypriots and they insist on refusing to allow them to go home 32 years after. When did Greece performed ethnic cleansing of TCs in Cyprus? In your dream?

Greece had a dictatorship long long time ago, but thats part of history now. Will Turkey ever follow Greece and start acting in a Erupean way finally, or they will continue to be stuck in the middle ages, insisting on crimes and illegalities, using lame excuses that expired many decades ago?

Turkey have made a good point. They refuse to do so until economic barriers towards TC's are lifted and i back this completely as my people are suffering due to trade embargoes and we are not able to turn our hard work in to better fortunes.

I gave the answer already Kartal: "The current Turkish policies serve nobody apart from the Turkish army, and the Turkish Islamist fundamentalists." Along with GCs, the Kurds and their own citizens, the Turkish illegal actions also harm the Turkish Cypriots. If they stop insisting on illegalities then the occupation will end and Turkish Cypriots will then be able to trade legally and freely. You should have better fortunes based on hard work as you said, not by exploiting our properties and supporting illegalities and crimes.

Kikapu,
If Turkey is rejected from EU her economy will roll down the hill really really fast. This, along with the psychological/social consequences that the end of the Ataturk dream will have over Turks, will be the beginning of the end for Turkey as we know it.
Do not underestimate this. Do you think it is a coincidence that the British and the Americans are trying as hard as they can to put Turkey in EU?

[Kartal_Aetos]

greece performed ethnic cleansing of TC's in the shape and form of EOKA and the idea of enosis...lets not be naive piratis, ENOSIS is not possible without clearing TC's and thats exactly what they done...should turkey have not intervened when they did we (TC's) would all be dead now....this is not propaganda...its the truth....the killing of TC's started before the turkish army came to the island...now if ur not looking at this and saying its all in the past now, well so is turkey's actions...the reason why the army is there is that with them on the island, there can be no more attacks on the TC's...who would have the balls?...without them there, we are open to be attacked once more....ofcourse, cyprus does carry a strategic importance for turkey...im not denying that...but we must allow them that benefit for helping us...i do not agree with the grip they have kept on us and never have...

unfortunately, the removal of the army from northern cyprus can not be implemented until the future of my people is guaranteed and with what the greek politicians are offering, that simply is not fulfilled...afterall, would you agree to live under a minority status? no say into the way the island is run? we all know there are greek nationalist parties in RoC and should they come to power, the TC's are helpless...its too much of a risk...

if u are going to reply to this...don't miss out the part where EOKA killed many TC's...and that EOKA was a greek government-maintained organisation which in todays world would be called TERRORIST and so would greece