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Postby Strahd » Thu Jun 22, 2006 10:57 am

sadik wrote:What you calculated is not a very large amount. Turkey paid off more than $8 billion for the debts of just one bank that went bankrupt during the banking crisis in 2001. There were more than a dozen banks that wen bankrupt.

However this is strange economics. Some Brit will come purchase a house for 50000 pounds and then the Turkey will have to pay at least that much compensation to the GC owner. Is the Turkish nation so rich that they have started subsidizing cheap housing for the Brits?


So Sadik... what you are implying that this comission is really Turkish and just goes with the "public" name of beeing a TC comission.

Well I would not say this is far from beeing true, after all you call yourselves a Turkish Republic.
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Postby sadik » Thu Jun 22, 2006 11:22 am

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sadik wrote:What you calculated is not a very large amount. Turkey paid off more than $8 billion for the debts of just one bank that went bankrupt during the banking crisis in 2001. There were more than a dozen banks that wen bankrupt.

However this is strange economics. Some Brit will come purchase a house for 50000 pounds and then the Turkey will have to pay at least that much compensation to the GC owner. Is the Turkish nation so rich that they have started subsidizing cheap housing for the Brits?


So Sadik... what you are implying that this comission is really Turkish and just goes with the "public" name of beeing a TC comission.

Well I would not say this is far from beeing true, after all you call yourselves a Turkish Republic.


It's not a secret that this commission was established by Turkey for Turkey's needs, so they will pay the compensations as well.
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Postby Strahd » Thu Jun 22, 2006 11:27 am

sadik wrote:It's not a secret that this commission was established by Turkey for Turkey's needs, so they will pay the compensations as well.


Why does it work as a "TRNC" official commission??????

It should have been established by Turkey then in Turkey! So all of it is a fiasco and a marketing trick for "TRNC" with the money of Turkish taxpayers!

Well as you can see once more this kind of bakali tricks won't get us anywhere.
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Postby Kifeas » Thu Jun 22, 2006 11:37 am

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cypezokyli wrote:btw it appears that two refuggees from the village of akanthou will receive their property back.
and it appears that a compensation is also prepared as a solution for the aresti case


There are about 200000 refugees. So very very lightly let us assume that there will be 10000 cases. Say 50% cannot be given their properties back, so that leaves 5000 who need compensation. Aresti was proposed 460000 CYP so I give an average of 100000CYP per case...

Therefore pseudo TRNC proposes that it can pay 500,000,000 CYP in compensation... Have you checked your balance at the National Bank of Turkey lately? You will probably gonnane need to sell a lot more to lardy middleclass brittish pensioners than you think so

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Compensation of 5 billion pounds for what?
For the loss of use during the past years, or for the value of property itself?

If you are only talking about compensation for the non-use (loss of income, etc,) then you will not be far if you double it. However, if it is for the value of the properties if their owners accept their estrangement (appropriation,) then you must take into consideration that the total value of all G/C properties in the occupied north is estimated around 40-45 billion Cyprus pounds. We are talking about 1.5 millions of donums of land, much of which is prime land around half the entire coastline of Cyprus, plus houses, plus hotels, buildings, factory installations, etc, etc.
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Postby Piratis » Thu Jun 22, 2006 1:12 pm

The only authority that can expropriate properties in Cyprus is RoC. No Turkey or any pseudo state. Even a private sale of property has to pass from RoC to be legal.

What Turkey can do is admit the illegalities of her actions and pay compensations to our refugees for the last 32 years and finally give them their own land back.

Beyond that the occupation is still occupation. Just now Turkey will come down to the Nazi level, since the Nazis were not ethnically cleansing the countries they illegally occupied. Well, I guess thats an improvement for Turkey.

However I doubt Turkey will truly give compensations and land back to many people. They don't have money to give to compensate people for the last 32 years. Also do not forget that people should be allowed to return under safety and legality, something that it is impossible to be done as long as the occupation continues. (the examples of the few GCs that stayed in the occupied areas after the invasion shows how anybody that dares to go and live in his own home will be treated by the occupation regime)
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Postby cypezokyli » Thu Jun 22, 2006 3:46 pm

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Postby Sotos » Thu Jun 22, 2006 4:03 pm

How can the one who commits a crime judge himself? So the Titina Loizidou VS Turkey case could be judged by Turkey? :? How can this be fair?
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Postby Simon » Thu Jun 22, 2006 4:07 pm

Spot on Sotos, I was just thinking the same thing and couldn't have said it better myself. GCs can only get true justice if they go to the ECHR. Anybody who colludes with this puppet Commission is betraying Cyprus.
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Postby MR-from-NG » Thu Jun 22, 2006 4:14 pm

How can the one who commits a crime judge himself? So the Titina Loizidou VS Turkey case could be judged by Turkey? How can this be fair?


Remember 63 and 74? Look at what you supposedly propose for the good of the TC's and Cyprus. Just as Comical as the above, isn't it?
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Jun 22, 2006 4:48 pm

Simon wrote:Spot on Sotos, I was just thinking the same thing and couldn't have said it better myself. GCs can only get true justice if they go to the ECHR. Anybody who colludes with this puppet Commission is betraying Cyprus.


All this is fear generating bullshit, if these people have rights to these properites which you have been demanding for years then surely now they have been given that right they can do what the hell they want with their property and that includes selling it to whoever they want.
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