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[webmagus]

We had enough of people calling the president we democratically elected as "Tpap", "PapaD" etc. Were is their respect?

Why TC’s have to respect this monkey?

They have the human right to piss on his grave

He is racist a fascistic pig who was participating in TC killings.

They have to respect our madness?

They have the right and I’ve also the right to piss on Ntektash grave and maybe with pissing these criminals we’ll solve our problem.

call him PapaM

Papadopoulos Monkey

Papadopoulos Malakas

Papadopoulos Masturbating

What ever you want our great democracy allow you to piss on fascists.

[cypezokyli]

calm down webmagus
i also dont agree with tpap, but with the above you are not "discussing" just insulting.
i am sure you can give us some more constractive post , isnt it ?

[stuballstu]

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Yeah right Pratis i will ask every other European nation, whilst i am there shall i ask them if they knew then what they now know about Cyprus would they have admitted them to the EU?

Ask them. Most of them would be even happier with us than before since what we do is aligned with their own beliefs. You, having interests in the occupied areas, are not a representative of EU citizens as a whole.

Piratis

I have already stated on previous numerous occasions i have interests on both sides of the green line. Clear???

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Jack Straw gave the answer to that didnt he, but then again because he disagreed with the ROC he also becomes a "Turk Lover".


What do you mean "he becomes"? He, and the British government in general, has always been

Thats why the dont recognise the TRNC is it?

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What problems does the UK cause the EU?

And what problems does Cyprus cause to EU? It causes problems to the EU accession process of Turkey. According to most Europeans not only this is not a problem, but it is also a good thing. Or you think Europeans swear day and night at Cyprus because they can't wait to see Turkey in EU and Cyprus is delaying this? Get real please.

Another question unanswered Piratis. You claim the UK cause more problems for the EU than Cyprus yet you can not substantiate these claim never mind back up with evidence. I dont think Europeans in general give two hoots about Cyprus, the respective presidents of the EU without shadow of a doubt look upon it as a migraine.

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Turkey undemocratic? I would have to disagree. The military do have power there however this has been diluted and is continually being done so. How can it be undemocratic when an election is due.


Unfortunately nothing important is done without the approval of the army. This is something admitted by Turkish politicians themselves.

This is something that is changing Piratis that even you have to admit. It will take time but these changes are welcome within the international community. Even Cyprus should welcome these changes as the pen has always been mighter than the sword. Unfortunately at the moment the pens in both sides of the green line are dry.

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The ROC have very few hence the reason they have had 29 warning letters from the EU regards non compliance with EU directives.

and how is that compared to the other 9 countries that recently joined EU and the rest 15?

Malta 2 Czech Republic 12, I would have to check the rest. My point is that you preach about EU values. You have been a member 2 years now and know very little. There is another thread on the general BB about a German company who want to open estate agents in Cyprus who have been bogged down by paperwork for the last 9 months. Also a Cypriot gets tax breaks when they are repatriating back to Cyprus with regards their car etc. A fellow EU citizen has to pay import duties even though they have been paid in an other EU member state. Dont dare lecture on EU values it sounds very hypocritical.

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With as you say "Ali Toilet" you have a better chance of unity, thats the reason he was voted in


We didn't see any difference between him and Denctash. In fact it could not be otherwise since only a puppet of Turkey is allowed in that position.

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On another note "Pratis" you show a complete lack of respect for a fellow Cypriot who has been democratically elected by his community to represent them.


He was not elected just by his community but by a huge number of illegal settlers as well. We had enough of people calling the president we democratically elected as "Tpap", "PapaD" etc. Were is their respect?

There is a huge difference Piratis. Tpap and PapaD are shortened version of Tassos Papadopoulos not a nickname like you have given "Ali Toilet". It shows a complete lack of respect for your fellow Cypriots. Who is showing their true colours now? With respect you are now acting like a PRATIS.

Good luck to you Piratis in your quest to find what your looking for but remember we dont live in a perfect world.

[webmagus]

Hi cypezokyli you probably have right I’ll try to be more calm when I’m thinking the Eurotaliban madness.

There is an evolvement for the refuges properties issue that is probably the grave for the hole issue (the Anan plan it would be a paradise dream). The LEGAL committee in north Cyprus it’s ready to start amends the refuges in the wafting for the next decision of the European court of human rights that is awaited to be similar to the previous one.

And the great pure plain shit with mayonnaise government says what it will not stop anyone to visit this LEGAL committee.

They are not event care if this matter it will be the first big step for the division because this is exactly what this fascist pigs want.

They don’t give a shit about the refuges as they didn’t give shit in all of these 30 years and not only them but all the previous governments have kicked as with bullshits and promises and now we (the refuges) we’ll get from the three the longest one.

And some dreamers who can’t deal with reality they still bullshiting about the refuges properties.

Good luck in the banana seeking.

[Kikapu]

Kikapu. I wish good luck to Turkey to their new Islamic direction. It is finally good that they recognized that what Ataturk was telling them was crap. Apparently they are incompatible with EU ideals so they should really stop wasting their time.

Piratis,

I actually do agree with you, that Turkey does not belong in the "Christian EU Club", so as a result, there's no need to continue with ALL your demands from Turkey over Cyprus, so instead you're going to have to cut a deal with the TRNC. Oh, I have just remembered one small detail, that Turkey still has 40,000 troops on the Island, so try not to piss them off too much will you, when you tell them to pack their bags and go back to the land of "shit talking" Ataturk. Turks like it when you talk down to them, so be sure to show them who the boss is, and you just let it rip. They would even respect you, if you climbed up their command post, to remove the Turkish flag, and throw it to the ground, and as for good measure, step on it when you come down, to once again, to show them who really is in charge. I don't think PappaD can help you with your mission, since his speciallity is hurting innocent civilians. You have my support, so be brave and go for it.

[miltiades]

Lets us all hope that Turkey never chooses to go down the "Islamic Fundamental path " it could be detrimental not only to Turkey's interests but also to Cyprus as well as to the entire Western world.
It is highly improbable that Turkey will ever adopt the Iranian code of theocratic regime . Turkey is seen by Europe and the Western world as a moderate Islamic state and an example to other Islamic states.
Any way the army would never allow it.

[Kikapu]

Lets us all hope that Turkey never chooses to go down the "Islamic Fundamental path " it could be detrimental not only to Turkey's interests but also to Cyprus as well as to the entire Western world.
It is highly improbable that Turkey will ever adopt the Iranian code of theocratic regime . Turkey is seen by Europe and the Western world as a moderate Islamic state and an example to other Islamic states.
Any way the army would never allow it.

Miltiades,

Welcome back from Cyprus. Hope hope had a great time. Actually, I've missed reading your common sense posts. Turkey will never go down the " Islamic Fundeamental Path", but same time, Turkey does not need to follow Europe stride by stride either. They can maintain their identity and same time adjust to some of the European values. Turkey already enjoys a close relationship with the Europeans, Americans, Asians and Middle East, so don't listen to Piratis's nonsense.

[miltiades]

No member of the EU is compelled to dispense of its identity , culture or religion. What the " Club " requires is that every member state will honour the Club's rules and regulations and abide by the agreements signed. I'm a firm believer in the long term benefits for all club members as well as for the entire world. It is 60 years since the last major conflict in Europe . I believe firmly that Europe needs Turkey as a member , and Turkey will , sooner or later become one. The demands placed on Turkey by the EU are not detrimental to Turkey's interest , but are constructive in ensuring that the Club continues as a viable and a flourishing Union.
I only hope that those narrow minded Brits who feel that retaining Sterling is a must in order to preserve our sovereignty ? British sovereignty went overboard with the influx in to the country of weird and unwelcoming cultures imported by people who look as if they stepped out of prehistoric tribes. Banks and other institutions that refuse to celebrate British festivities , councils that ban words containing any reference to a colour , schools who gave back age long traditions as not to offend .
Kikapu , Europe will not DEMAND that Turkey abandons its traditions and culture. Turkey must do the same and not demand that Europe bans innocent words that she , Turkey , finds offensive. And yes , Europe will carry on eating bacon , showing cartoons depicting a variety of animals . Neither is Europe likely to ban religious beliefs , but it will and must act to ban racist inflammatory preachings often heard spreading hatred .

[Piratis]

I have already stated on previous numerous occasions i have interests on both sides of the green line. Clear???

Clear. How many Europeans have interests in Cyprus and especially in the occupied part? I am simply saying that you are not a representative sample of Europeans. Maybe you don't like the policies of RoC because you have interests in the occupied parts as well. On the other hand most Europeans are more than happy with RoC and they agree with the firm policy of Cyprus on the Turkish EU accession issue.

Thats why the dont recognise the TRNC is it?

The British government doesn't recognize it because 1) They don't want to openly support ethnic cleansing - they always prefer to support such things behind the scenes and 2) If they did that they would have big problems with their military bases in Cyprus.

You claim the UK cause more problems for the EU than Cyprus yet you can not substantiate these claim never mind back up with evidence.

Most Europeans feel that UK is pushing the USA interests instead of the interests of the EU. This is one more reason why most Europeans do not want Turkey in the union since the "USA camp" of EU would grow more powerful.

I dont think Europeans in general give two hoots about Cyprus, the respective presidents of the EU without shadow of a doubt look upon it as a migraine.

This is true for the UK and a few other countries. For the rest the migraine is caused by Turkey who refuses to honor their signature, not Cyprus.

This is something that is changing Piratis that even you have to admit. It will take time but these changes are welcome within the international community.

Some changes have been done on a theoretical level to satisfy EU. In practice nothing has changed. Just wait and see how fast Turkey will remove her European mask if/when their EU accession process ends.

Malta 2 Czech Republic 12, I would have to check the rest. My point is that you preach about EU values. You have been a member 2 years now and know very little. There is another thread on the general BB about a German company who want to open estate agents in Cyprus who have been bogged down by paperwork for the last 9 months. Also a Cypriot gets tax breaks when they are repatriating back to Cyprus with regards their car etc. A fellow EU citizen has to pay import duties even though they have been paid in an other EU member state. Dont dare lecture on EU values it sounds very hypocritical.

Every country has its own laws. Cyprus laws are harmonized with EU and only minor details remain to be ironed out, just with every other new EU country. Because you import cars it doens't mean that "car imports" is one of the EU values.
The EU values are those of democracy, human rights, respect to international law etc. Cyprus is not perfect (nobody is) but it is definitely at least at the EU average and continually improving.
I am with you if you want to criticize RoC on some issues. But to say that because Cyprus has some law about car imports this means that the human rights of Cypriots should not be respected and their country should be illegally occupied, it is ridiculous to say the least.

There is a huge difference Piratis. Tpap and PapaD are shortened version of Tassos Papadopoulos not a nickname like you have given "Ali Toilet". It shows a complete lack of respect for your fellow Cypriots. Who is showing their true colours now? With respect you are now acting like a PRATIS.

Tpap, PapaD etc are used by those that try to ridicule our president. If they don't show any respect to the one and only president of Cyprus, why should we show any kind of respect to the one that represents ethnic cleansing and illegality (the 2 elements that make up the pseudo "trnc")

[Piratis]

I actually do agree with you, that Turkey does not belong in the "Christian EU Club", so as a result, there's no need to continue with ALL your demands from Turkey over Cyprus, so instead you're going to have to cut a deal with the TRNC.

How can we cut a deal with something that is legally invalid? It would be a legally invalid deal. Even if we went crazy and attempted such thing, any deal with the puppet state would mean nothing since it is Turkey directly who takes the decisions.

Oh, I have just remembered one small detail, that Turkey still has 40,000 troops on the Island, so try not to piss them off too much will you, when you tell them to pack their bags and go back to the land of "shit talking" Ataturk. Turks like it when you talk down to them, so be sure to show them who the boss is, and you just let it rip. They would even respect you, if you climbed up their command post, to remove the Turkish flag, and throw it to the ground, and as for good measure, step on it when you come down, to once again, to show them who really is in charge. I don't think PappaD can help you with your mission, since his speciallity is hurting innocent civilians. You have my support, so be brave and go for it.

Nah, I am not so brave. We would rather just block Turkey from EU accession, then see their stock market crashing, them starting issuing 1 billion Turkish lira notes due to inflation. Their Ataturk dream will be over and they will start sinking deeper and deeper into Islam. Soon they would start burning EU and American flags and their destiny will be in the end the same as the once good USA friends Saddam Husein and the Taliban.

If they insist not to respecting the human rights and the sovereignty of my country, then I wish them the worst, and we will work in that direction.

Sorry Kikapu, but the "pants down and bent" policies of Cyprus are over. If Turkey wants respect and support they have to show respect to us as well. If they choose to be our enemies by insisting on violating our sovereignty and human rights, then from us they should expect only the worst. I think thats only fair.