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Cyprus EU accession complicated the process for a solution?

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Sotos » Mon Jun 19, 2006 12:20 am

Piratis wrote:If it wasn't for the EU accession of Cyprus, the Turks would still be saying that "the Cyprus problem was solved in 1974".

With the EU accession of Cyprus Turkey would have a problem as well, not just Cypriots. They (Turkey, USA/UK, Annan) tried to solve the problem of Turkey by quickly closing the Cyprus issue by legalizing partition and removing any leverage Cyprus would have with her EU accession.

The failed to do that and solve the problem of Turkey, so yes, the EU accession of Cyprus has complicated the process of the solution of their problem.

The solution of the problem of Cypriots has always been complicated and we didn't reach any point of being close to a true solution. If Cyprus acts correctly within EU and it doesn't bent from the Turkish threats then in the future we might be closer to a solution.


I think Piratis is right on.
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Postby webmagus » Mon Jun 19, 2006 12:42 am

For Viewpoint anybody that doesn't share his views for aparthait and ethnic separation of a country's communities is narrowminded. Then I guess all the countries that choose not to have such things, but instead go for what I ask for - democracy, human rights and equality of all citizens regardless of their race, are "narrowminded".



I think what Viewpoint is very gentle guy (I’m not).

A person who support a criminal president who characterizes anyone
that doesn’t share his views of madness and stupidity as a traitor, he
doesn’t have the right to make such arguments.

It’s better to keep bullshiting as about your patriot feelings and keep it their.

The patriot democracy malakies you must tell them to the criminal fascist your are supporting.

Mr. Fotinoulis he was a common criminal and sub leader of a criminal organization named Akritas who want to make ethnic cleansing.

Before bullshitting big ideas look your past and think if your are man enough to take your responsibilities and stop bullshiting as about your stupid democracy rights.

And the right question is:

When we can found a solution?


a) When Turkey is in Europe road.

b) When Turkey is blocked from Europe?

There is no reason in what our stupid governments says, that’s why no one (including Greece) will follow as in disaster.



Sotos:

You can't think :wink:
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Postby Sotos » Mon Jun 19, 2006 12:48 am

A person who support a criminal president who characterizes anyone
that doesn’t share his views of madness and stupidity as a traitor, he
doesn’t have the right to make such arguments.


You talk about yourself and your support to Talat, Denctash, Erdogan and everybody that is against Cyprus? ;)
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Postby Sotos » Mon Jun 19, 2006 12:54 am

Sotos:

You can't think


I can't think like a traitor. You are right ;) Let me try: Lets kill all Cypriots and have Turkey take everything they want. They should have their troops in Cyprus. Papadopoulos is fascist because he wants EU solution. What democracy and malakies? Bring on some dictatorship. How did I do? :lol:
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Postby webmagus » Mon Jun 19, 2006 1:03 am

Okay I’m a traitor my friend. You have absolutely right. :)

In the Kissinger issue I’ve speak about the human pig Dektash.

And about the human big Papadopoulos is the same thing.

I don’t support Turkey, this is your mind problem.

Okay?

I’ve said about Papadopoulos:

Mr. Fotinoulis he was a common criminal and sub leader of a criminal organization named Akritas who want to make ethnic cleansing.

Where is the human rights on this?

Callm down and think before you fart. :wink:

Mr Ezekias Papaioanou (ex president of Akel) said about this human pig:

If Papadopoulos becomes a president of Cyprus he will bring the division.

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Postby Sotos » Mon Jun 19, 2006 1:12 am

Papadopoulos is doing what people want him to do. People elected Papadopoulos and people rejected the Annan plan. You don't want our president to do what people want?
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Postby Piratis » Mon Jun 19, 2006 1:14 am

webmagus, Papdopoulos is supported by AKEL, EDEK, DIKO, Ecologists and the 60%+ of the Cypriot people, even more when it comes to the Cyprus problem.

If he doesn't have the right to make arguments then who has?

Were have you been before to talk about Cleredes and his support of EOKA B? Why so much hate against Papadopoulos? Because he doesn't do whatever your friend Erdogan wants?



And the right question is:

When we can found a solution?

a) When Turkey is in Europe road.

b) When Turkey is blocked from Europe?


The answer is: With Turkey in the EU road gradually making concessions that will lead to the solution of the Cyprus problem.

If Turkey can continue on this road without making any concessions then of course it is better if they are blocked from this road until they change their attitude. "Pants down and bent" policies of Cleredes-Vassiliou are over.
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Postby Piratis » Mon Jun 19, 2006 1:21 am

Sotos wrote:Papadopoulos is doing what people want him to do. People elected Papadopoulos and people rejected the Annan plan. You don't want our president to do what people want?


Well said Sotos. Some liked Cleredes who was promising one thing to steal the votes of the Cypriot people and then he was making other deals behind closed doors. This is why people kicked the pumbersman out and took somebody that does what he promises.

The majority of Cypriots reject the Annan plan: FACT
The majority of Greek Cypriots support Papadopoulos policies in the Cyprus problem: FACT
The majority of Greek Cypriots would want Turkey blocked from EU if Turkey is unwilling to make any concessions: FACT

So finally we have a president that respects democracy and does what he was voted to do. Some people don't like that. These are the people who say that democracy is "malakies".

Fortunately we have democracy and those people can not force their will against the democratic wishes of the Cypriot people.
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Postby webmagus » Mon Jun 19, 2006 1:33 am

I’m a traitor because I want a solution based on our politic history of 30+ years such as the federation?

Mr. Fotinoulis he put his sign about federation (on Makarios days).

All the previous governments they was discussing in a same base.

They are all traitors?

I agree and I WANT corrections of the plan but I can’t agree in madness.

Okay?

And I’ll never accept Papadopoulos history and tactics.

NEVER!


He is a fascist he is a criminal and I will never accept him.

Why the people of Cyprus accept him?

Because of the quality of the people.

The same quality of people who supported Ntektash.

The same quality of people who destroyed Cyprus.

And this is my oppinon. END.



Were have you been before to talk about Cleredes and his support of EOKA B? Why so much hate against Papadopoulos? Because he doesn't do whatever your friend Erdogan wants?



If their is such an issue (about Kliridis) I’ll speak about the truth.

I’m not supporting any political party.

I was on Greece for the past 15 years and I didn’t have anything to do with politics.

I’m disused from Papadopoulos tactics and I’ve start here to interested in politics and off course I agree with many issues of the politicians who vote yes but I’m not bounded by a political history.

Yes Erdogan is my friend we drink tea together.

I’m disused because he is a liar because he doesn’t speak clear about what he want, I’m discussed about the propaganda I’ve see in the days of the poll, I’m discoursed about his history and political and personal and I’m discussed about the Makarios tactics repetition.

I’m not Grivikos or Makariakos or anything i’m just an observer.

The answer is: With Turkey in the EU road gradually making concessions that will lead to the solution of the Cyprus problem.


I agree.

If Turkey can continue on this road without making any concessions then of course it is better if they are blocked from this road until they change their attitude. "Pants down and bent" policies of Cleredes-Vassiliou are over.


I lough. :lol:

The reason with the bullshiting.

You have a problem to communicate with your self and you try to mix reason with the government shit.

Congratulations. :!:
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Postby webmagus » Mon Jun 19, 2006 1:37 am

I’ve didn’t say what democracy is malakies. :lol:

Malakies you have in your brain when you speak about democracy when you support a fascist.

Do you want to open a topic about Akritas and the crimes they have made? :roll:

Do you want to speak about the democratic views of Malakopoulos when he was giving congratulation about Geek Cypriot communist killings? :roll:

Allakse sior o anthropos.

Drop dead my friend.
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