Kartal_Aetos wrote:Kifeas, you are ignorant if you dont believe GC's were out to ethnically cleanse TC's...what do you think EOKA B were doing?
i've had enough of trying to re-educate propaganda filled minds...Miltiades has said everything i wish to in his recent post...i cant say it any better...if kifeas and piratis still insist that the GC's and greeks were the angels of the events then fine...obviously you have no place on a forum where we are aiming to have TC's and GC's living peacefully one day...you obviously hate TC's too much to ever call me ur fellow cypriot brother as i am more than happy to call you...
No Kartal, I am not a propaganda filled mind, neither I hate TCs at all, not I have the slightest problem whatsoever to call you my fellow Cypriot brother!
Before deciding to denounce anyone of having a "propaganda filled mind," I suggest you first investigate thoroughly whether your mind is not such, and whether you know all the facts which allow you to make an accurate assessment and reach a valid conclusion on something.
In just one single paragraph that you post above, you conceded already to one such factual mistake. You implied that Eoka B was doing ethnic cleansing. I ask you: What do you know about Eoka B, when did it establish itself, and when (which period) did it commit ethnic cleansing against the TCs? If you can't get and describe the facts right, it is not wise to imply conclusions.
Yes, during the period of inter-communal constitutional crisis, which escalated into inter-communal fighting and violence, gangs of GC irregulars, mostly felonry and underworld criminals that infiltrated and formed parts of larger paramilitary groups, committed crimes and murders against innocent TC civilians. This is a fact, as it is also a fact that the same happened from the side of the TC community. It is a fact that the number of innocent victims from the part of the TC community was larger (double) to that of the GC victims, according to all accounts and reports of the UN and other foreign and local sources. All in all -during the whole period that such conflicts took place, i.e. between 1963/63 and 1967, some 800 TCs were lost (including armed men that took part in fights) and some 400 GCs (again including armed men.)
Now, if you want to impose on me or on anyone else, that the above fully condemned and regrettable events and facts, tantamount to ethnic cleansing -or even attempted ethnic cleansing, of the one community against the other, then I am sorry but I will not buy! None of my parents, relatives, co-villagers, and none of the people they knew (and they knew a lot of GCs) has ever took part -or has been asked to participate, in an attempted ethnic cleansing of the TCs from Cyprus. Therefore, it is an insult of the highest magnitude to claim or accuse the GC community of having conspired under its political leadership to ethnically cleanse the TCs from Cyprus.
I find your above sentence in which you claim that "GC's were out to ethnically cleanse TC's" an insult that doesn't comply with the reality of this country. The few uncontrolled gangs that committed crimes against some few hundreds of TC civilians are unpunished horrendous crimes that will remain a stigma on the GC community, but they do not qualify for what you have accused us for. They do not constitute a general, and an organised, and a state or a leadership sponsored attempt to ethnically cleanse the TCs from Cyprus! My village Lapithos was a mixed (TC /GC) village. My father’s village, Vasileia, was also a mixed village. No one ever came to the GC people of my two villages (in which the GCs were the majorities) and tried to organise them or ever told them that on an any XYZ date you should all move against the TCs of your village and kill them. No one GC ever touched a TC in my two villages, and no one has ever conspired or thought of doing so. Yet, when the intercommunal fighting erupted in Nicosia between armed groups, and presumably after some TCs were murdered by some of the above gangs, TMT officials from Nicosia came secretly to my two villages and incited the TCs that they should move into the Nicosia /Templos enclave because we the GCs of their village were conspiring and were a threat to their safety. This is what they themselves explained to my co-villagers then.
Furthermore, you should check all the facts right and see to what extent similar practices by TC thugs did not "invite" similar actions by GC thugs, in a circle of revenge and counter-revenge actions.
by zoppovortoi » Sat Jul 01, 2006 10:56 pm 
