Cyprus-Forum.com

[Kartal_Aetos]

Ok, that land was not Turkey's or Venetians...it was under Turkish and Venetian rule then would say tomato tomato but the expression isnt the same in text lol....

so what you ment by OUR ISLAND is that it is infact a Greek Cypriot island???

[Kartal_Aetos]

and u condemn turkeys middle age invasion yet how do u think GC's got to the island? did byzantium get the island through diplomacy? maybe they bought it and moved in like a house end of the day, we all got there through invasion and settlement...

[zoppovortoi]

Turks was have the right to invent in Cyprus in 63 but USA prevent them we have give them many excuses and after all we’ve call them to come (Makarios).

At 63 the Greeks was warning us what USA will not be able to stop them once more and we did what?

Okay the Turks are Barbarians and we are saints and we don’t have any responsibility for our decisions where is the point of that?

Let’s slaughter the Turks and free this Greek island?

What is the point of this conversation?

[miltiades]

Piratis , we made dreadful mistakes , we can correct them now be stretching out our hand and asking our compatriots to do so too. Nothing constructive will ever be achieved by continuing to blame them for our present predicament. They suffered just as much as we did if not more. Turkey would not be in Cyprus today occupying not only our land but the land of our Cypriot brothers too , if we had not by our actions given Turkey the green light to invade.

[Piratis]

ofcourse, piratis, i agree with u that the GC's are suffering worse than what they have done...i dont deny that...but what i am trying to say is that they brought it upon themselves and if they are going to always point out Turkey's crimes agains themselves, dont forget to state that it is a consequence of GC actions...not small actions...ENOSIS was a BIG mistake, not a little one...

In fact union with Greece should have been one of the options for the Cypriot people to democratically choose from. According to the resolution 1541 about decolonization "free association with an independent State, integration into an independent State, or independence as the three legitimate options of full self-government."
http://www.un.org/depts/dpi/decolonizat ... ration.htm


If the british and TCs had accepted this legitimate wish of the majority of Cypriots no conflict would have ever happened.

i dont mean to aggrevate u, piratis...afterall, u are a fellow cypriot...i simply just dont want to see unfair statements made about either side and then to have our youth miseducated and bred with hatred for the other side...afterall, if we are going to live together one glorious day we must not bare hatred for one another...

Hatred is mainly created by unfair actions, and not statements. If somebody does not respect you and your human and democratic rights it is natural that you will not love him. Respect and following the universal principles of democracy and human rights is the only way to achieve something better for Cyprus.

so what you ment by OUR ISLAND is that it is infact a Greek Cypriot island???

It is Cypriot island, and at that time (when the Ottomans first invaded) Cypriots did not include Turks. The Ottomans had invaded a totally foreign to them land. The 10s of thousands of people that were butchered during the invasion were Cypriots, not Venetians. Also Cypriots were the ones who suffered for 3 centuries, not the Venetians.

and u condemn turkeys middle age invasion yet how do u think GC's got to the island?

Greeks came to the island 3500 years ago, long before the concept of a country was invaded. They founded their own city states on unoccupied land , and slowly slowly the indigenous people also started following the superior Greek civilization. Thats how. (no invasions, genocides, ethnic cleansings etc, even if it was at a time when international law did not exist)

What is the point of this conversation?

the conversations with yourself you mean? Because what you said has nothing with our discussion.

[Kifeas]

Turks was have the right to invent in Cyprus in 63 but USA prevent them we have give them many excuses and after all we’ve call them to come (Makarios).

At 63 the Greeks was warning us what USA will not be able to stop them once more and we did what?

Okay the Turks are Barbarians and we are saints and we don’t have any responsibility for our decisions where is the point of that?

Let’s slaughter the Turks and free this Greek island?

What is the point of this conversation? :roll:

Yeah? Right! What is the point of this conversation?
What is the point of this conversation …other than to victimise the GC community and “compel” it to subjugate itself into a sell-out!

[zoppovortoi]

Piratis

You are a psychopath just like the gray wolves and while fanatic people like you exist nothing good will ever happen.

This stupid conversation has no meaning.

The only meaning exist in your insanity is what the well know crap the Greek fanatics used to said what a good Turk is only a dead Turk.

Is well known what the Turks are not as civilized as Europeans but they are in the right direction as we are less civilized from Europeans and we are also in the European direction.

All races have made crimes maybe the Turks have made more that does not mean anything unfortunately.

This is pure racism and nationalistic paranoia.

I can start speaking about the Greek crimes from the agent’s and forward but there is no meaning to do that. Exactly just there is no meaning to do the crap you do.

But if you insist I’ve very good news for you. We all have been uncivilized and we are all humans.

[zoppovortoi]

You are right is a try to victimize GC community (make her victim).

[Kifeas]

You are a psychopath just like the gray wolves and while fanatic people like you exist nothing good will ever happen.

This stupid conversation has no meaning.

The only meaning exist in your insanity is what the well know crap the Greek fanatics used to said what a good Turk is only a dead Turk.

Is well known what the Turks are not as civilized as Europeans but they are in the right direction as we are less civilized from Europeans and we are also in the European direction.

All races have made crimes maybe the Turks have made more that does not mean anything unfortunately.

This is pure racism and nationalistic paranoia.

I can start speaking about the Greek crimes from the agent’s and forward but there is no meaning to do that. Exactly just there is no meaning to do the crap you do.

But if you insist I’ve very good news for you. We all have been uncivilized and we are all humans.

What can I say to you?
What can I say to you other than to affirm the fact that it isn't your fault!
It is not your fault my friend, but rather those that keep you out of where you should have been.

[andri_cy]

You are a psychopath just like the gray wolves and while fanatic people like you exist nothing good will ever happen.

This stupid conversation has no meaning.

The only meaning exist in your insanity is what the well know crap the Greek fanatics used to said what a good Turk is only a dead Turk.

Is well known what the Turks are not as civilized as Europeans but they are in the right direction as we are less civilized from Europeans and we are also in the European direction.

All races have made crimes maybe the Turks have made more that does not mean anything unfortunately.

This is pure racism and nationalistic paranoia.

I can start speaking about the Greek crimes from the agent’s and forward but there is no meaning to do that. Exactly just there is no meaning to do the crap you do.

But if you insist I’ve very good news for you. We all have been uncivilized and we are all humans.

What can I say to you?
What can I say to you other than to affirm the fact that it isn't your fault!
It is not your fault my friend, but rather those that keep you out of where you should have been.