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[RichardB]

How can a solution be made when people do not seem to want to negotiate with the other party.

Negotiations is one thing. Turkeys accession is another. After the Cyprus problem is solved with negotiations then Turkey can restart her EU accession process.

If Turkey takes everything from the beginning then we will have no leverage in negotiations, while on the other hand Turkey will continue to have 40.000 troops on RoCs territory.
The EU leverage of RoC brings back a bit of balance in these negotiations. We are not going to give it up.

The agreements made during negotiation would be part and parcel of Turkey joining the EU does this not make sense

[Piratis]

I cannot find anything on this thread that says Turkey should make No compomise/consessions

If they do then their EU accesion process will continue.

Now we didn't demand that they should withdraw their troops in order to be allowed to continue with their EU accession.

We (EU) asked them to honor their own signature and open their ports and airports to RoC. Unfortunately they refuse to do even this!

[Piratis]

The agreements made during negotiation would be part and parcel of Turkey joining the EU does this not make sense

Cyprus can not say "if my problem with Turkey is solved then Turkey will join the EU", since Cyprus is one of the 25 countries in EU and not the only one with a veto power over Turkey's accession.

What Cyprus can say is that Cyprus will not veto Turkey if an agreed solution to the Cyprus problem is found. This goes without saying.

[RichardB]

The agreements made during negotiation would be part and parcel of Turkey joining the EU does this not make sense

Cyprus can not say "if my problem with Turkey is solved then Turkey will join the EU", since Cyprus is one of the 25 countries in EU and not the only one with a veto power over Turkey's accession.

What Cyprus can say is that Cyprus will not veto Turkey if an agreed solution to the Cyprus prolem is found. This goes without saying.

I agree with you that is what i meant about negotiation to Turkey joining EU

[Viewpoint]

Option 2 looks like the way this story will end and Cyprus will be divided forever.

With option 1) Cyprus is again divided with the only difference that Turkey is in EU.

So why would we choose 1) over 2)?

If Turkey is not going to make concessions anyways then whats the benefit for us for allowing her to continue her EU accession process? To get richer so they will buy more weapons to occupy our country? Or so later on they tell us that their illegal settlers can legally be in Cyprus because they are EU citizens?

No concessions from Turkey = No EU for Turkey. I hope this is made as clear as possible because we are truly not bluffing with this.

You have answered your own question

[RichardB]

You know what viewpoint he's (Pirates) Very hard work isnt he

[webmagus]

This question should be directed to you.

How will we fight Turkey if we allow them in EU without the solution of the Cyprus problem?

Okay and how we will find a solution if Turkey is blocked from Europe?

The only way to found a solution is to change president.

The only way to found a solution is to follow Greece.

The conflict is not mine.

I’m with reason don’t try to change roles.

[Viewpoint]

You know what viewpoint he's (Pirates) Very hard work isnt he

narrowminded i would say and hopefully not the average GC otherwise we willl continue with division:wink:

[Piratis]

For Viewpoint anybody that doesn't share his views for aparthait and ethnic separation of a country's communities is narrowminded. Then I guess all the countries that choose not to have such things, but instead go for what I ask for - democracy, human rights and equality of all citizens regardless of their race, are "narrowminded".

[Piratis]

Option 2 looks like the way this story will end and Cyprus will be divided forever.

With option 1) Cyprus is again divided with the only difference that Turkey is in EU.

So why would we choose 1) over 2)?

If Turkey is not going to make concessions anyways then whats the benefit for us for allowing her to continue her EU accession process? To get richer so they will buy more weapons to occupy our country? Or so later on they tell us that their illegal settlers can legally be in Cyprus because they are EU citizens?

No concessions from Turkey = No EU for Turkey. I hope this is made as clear as possible because we are truly not bluffing with this.

You have answered your own question

So the answer to the question "So why would we choose 1) over 2)? " is that by choosing 2) we will make Turkey more powerful and easier for her to legalize her illegal settlers and force on us her demands.

Sure, that would make the "solution" of the Cyprus problem easier.