miltiades
The world would be a sad place and a very backward one to , if the"dreamers" did not exist . Flying started as a dream , going to the moon was also one.
You are allowed your dreams no one is trying to deny you this right but being a realist I find it difficult to subscribe to you we are all "Cypriots" theory when the two sides cant even talk to each other and are still playing political games. The will, vision and desire do not exist on either side of the divide this is reality.
There is so much propaganda going on from both sides at the moment I'm just wondering where are the voices of reason.Many T/Cs contributors to this forum are convinced that what their history told them is 100% correct. The United nations were in Cyprus during the Turkish Invasion , it is their side of the story that you should listen to , instead you are convinced that the G/Cs were out to wipe out all T/Cs .
Do you know that the majority of G/Cs are peace loving , non haters and want a peaceful coexistence with their T/Cs compatriots just as you do too.
I agree there is propaganda on both sides but I try to focus on what we have today. The TCs contibutors do not trust GCs that is the bottom line. This can stem from past actions and the fear that still remains today in the older generation "Cypriots" who can still remember what it was like to live with a GC administration where everything was a battle just because you were a TC "compatriot". It can also come from the actions of your current administration which appears to be anti TCs at best.
Recently your peace loving non haters who want to live with us were polled and 48% declared they do not want tolive mixed with their TC "compatriots". It is these same people who arrest architects for drawing plans for houses being built on disputed land, then surely you should be arresting most of our population as the majority have some connections with disputed land just check their addresses on their id cards. These are the actions of our "Compatriots".
I lived through the EOKA 55-59 liberation struggle. A large percentage of Cypriots supported the struggle. The Brits used the T/Cs as "special constables" - epikouriki - The inter communal problems were encouraged by the Brits , it was to their interest that the two communities were divided (Divide and rule )
There are always as you mentioned before 2 sides to a story and your "dream" for Enosis caused hardship and turmoil for many "Cypriots" and was imo the cause of the situation we have today.
A lot a crap is talked about the "ethnic cleansing of the T/Cs .Are there any evidence that this was an on going practice instigated by the officials , or are you going to refer me to Mr.Gibbons . Turkey is in denial of the Armenian massacre that the entire world concurs that it took place , there are hundreds of books on the subject , yet you accuse the G/C community at large of committing massacres suggest that you do some research amongst people who were around at the time , and not take the propaganda as gospel.
Ethnic cleansing can be performed in many ways one of them was the Makarios offer of a better life abroad financed by the then "RoC", their are many first hand statements of TCs where lets say encouraged to go look for a better life in Canada, Australia and other countries just because they were so restricted and stiffled in living in their own country.
The Armenian issue will continue to be disputed for many years to come but Turkey is not denying there were many deaths on both sides as there was a war going on. They have also asked for the Armenians to open the historical records which they refused to do. The have asked for an international panel of experts/historians to analyse exactly what went on and have clearly stated that those actions were taken by the Ottoman Empire and not the Republic of Turkey.
What more do you want them to do? just accept all the shit that is thrown at them, obviously they will argue their side of the story as you quite rightly said there are always 2 sides to a story.
In 1995, UNFICYP found that Turkish Cypriots living in the southern part of the island were not subject to a restrictive regime and under the law enjoyed the same rights as other citizens. At the same time, in several respects, it was found that Turkish Cypriots were often the victims of capricious discrimination and harassment and thus did not enjoy a fully normal life. With regard to Greek Cypriots and Maronites living in the northern part of the island, the review confirmed that those communities were the objects of very severe restrictions imposed by the Turkish Cypriot authorities, which curtailed the exercise of many basic freedoms and had the effect of ensuring that, inexorably with the passage of time, those communities would cease to exist in the northern part of the island. "
This is your own findings and gives us an insite into what life would be like in a GC adminstered state for TCs. Its you guys that claim you are a democratic and human rights respecting nation not us. We are unrecognized barbarian parasites as many of our "Compatirots" so eloquantly always remind us.
Its been well over 2 years now and both sides have had more than enough time to at least start to come together and resolve issues. What have we got today no further than we were 2 or even 43 years ago. We wont change neither side is prepared to back down and the current climate will ensure division continues until a time when no one could be bothered if we unite or not but of course we wont see it.
