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Annan Plan Burried or not?

Postby insan » Fri Nov 19, 2004 12:51 pm

I dread the rights of the ‘heretics’


http://www.cyprusmedianet.com/EN/article/29785?

2004-11-17 | Politis | ΑΝΔΡΕΑΣ ΠΑΡΑΣΧΟΣ
In Annex IX of the Annan plan regarding the coming into being of the new state of affairs, it is mentioned: “Should the Foundation Agreement not be approved at the separate simultaneous referenda, or any guarantor fail to sign into force the Treaty on matters related to the new state of affairs in Cyprus by April 29 2004, it shall be null and void, and have no legal effect.” This is what United Nations Secretary-General underlined in the plan for the solution of the Cyprus issue, which became known as Annan plan.


The day before yesterday, Serdar Denktash, fully coordinated with the letter of the above-mentioned paragraph (whatever this may mean), came out and stated that: “The Annan plan cannot possibly be discussed anew, since the T/C accepted it. I will not rule out, though, the possibility of another plan being proposed in the future, which will not be the Annan plan.” The day before yesterday, Mehmet Ali Talat called President Papadopoulos to prepare his recommendations for a comprehensive settlement of the Cyprus issue, to communicate these recommendations to the Turkish side, to study them and “we will surely talk.” Neither Annan plan nor De Soto plan. Nothing.

Let’s see what happens on our side with the two parameters of the rejection of the Annan plan.

In his statements last Sunday, on the sidelines of the Central Committee meeting of DIKO, Tassos Papadopoulos said that “those who claim that the Annan plan should be buried are living in a dream world” and noted that “the changes sought by our side are well-known”, adding that “there is no prospect for resumption of the talks at the moment, and therefore what exactly the Greek-Cypriot side seeks should not be stated in public.”

On his part, Demetris Christofias, speaking at the Orpheas checkpoint in Nicosia the day before yesterday, said that “the G/C side has been working systematically and persistently to be ready so that, as soon as a new initiative is assumed, we will react positively and constructively.” The four protagonists of the Cyprus issue in Cyprus have been telling us that, the way things stand, there is no prospect for talks at the moment and, judging from their actions, they don’t seem to be in a hurry. Besides, the first two have to delegate power in February, while the other two have to preserve the power they have already been sharing for another three years. So nobody is in a hurry.

In the meantime, according to a diplomatic report of the Cyprus issue, powerful member-states of the EU, the US and the UN have already departed from the logic of an overall negotiation on the Annan plan, even with minor amendments. Despite public statements as to the opposite, they believe that none of the protagonists of the Cyprus issue is ready to negotiate seriously the reunification of the island on the model of a bizonal bicommunal federation. The international factor does not seem to have any intention of getting deeply involved in a Cyprus settlement once Turkey has been put into a European orbit. This logic can only lead to what the ‘yesmen’ and other despicable persons were warning in the run-up to the referendum, to a federation or most probably to partition. What Papadopoulos and Christofias are now dreading are the rights of the ‘heretics’, as a Greek journalist aptly pointed out last Saturday at the reception in honor of Karamanlis in Nicosia. “They dread the rights of the ‘heretics’. They dread that the yes-men’s predictions will come true.”

To be honest, I am afraid of the same thing. And especially since I heard Papadopoulos saying on Sunday that “those who claim that the Annan plan should be buried are living in a dream world” and Christofias declaring on Monday evening that “we are anxious because the Cyprus issue remains open. The passage of time which consolidates division both in the territory and in the consciences of our people inspires awe.” (But no matter how scared I am, I have started thinking that with the leaders we have partition may be some kind of salvation…)


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Hehehehe! Our politicians(so-called) are the experts to create impasses for us but oddly enough to see some of our friends still blame the others :roll:

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Ps: Brother Michalis, the translation of GC articles into Turkish is quite well. I think the problem with the translation of TC articles in Greek, arise of its origin. You know TCs use a %75 modified grammar of official Turkish. Most of the TC collumnists use the grammatic structure of colloquial TC dialect.

Another issue I'd like to hear your detailed arguments about is that what "selective" attitudes you've witnesses on cyprusmedianet? Insofar as I know articles of both "yes" and "no" supporters from different dailies is translated and presented there... Cyprusmedianet translation service shed a great light on my views regarding the GC side of the story...


Ps2: Greets Pantelis. Welcome to the forum, my friend.... :)
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Postby MicAtCyp » Sat Nov 20, 2004 10:38 pm

Hi Insan gardas,

However they do translate the TC dailies in English quite well. So I don't think the problem is due to the TC dialect.

By "selective" I did not mean they present one side views! I meant they avoid to present articles that might be really informative.(at least regarding the information to the GCs). Presumably their purpose is to bring the two communities together so perehaps they just present moderate views either pro or against the issues.
I spent some time in the past reading the "selected articles" of TC dailies (their English translation), and beleive me after so much time spent i did not really learn anything of what is going on in the TC community. In fact if I would rely on those translations alone, I would form the opinion that Vatan is not nationalistic!
You on the other hand said "it shed a great light on your views regarding the GC side of the story... " The question is why it failed to shed the same light on the GCs? Is there a hidden agenda?
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Postby brother » Tue Nov 23, 2004 5:35 pm

Annan plan is dead but it will form the backbone of any other plan in the future.
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Postby Bananiot » Sun Nov 28, 2004 5:57 pm

In an interview in Halkin Sesi, Christofias claims that he would even accept 50 000 settlers to remain despite the fact that the A plan called for 45 000 to stay. Has anyone seen this interview which apparently was shown by private tv station canalT?
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Postby -mikkie2- » Sun Nov 28, 2004 6:14 pm

Bananiot,

Chrisofias wouldn't mind 50000 staying in TOTAL.

The Annan plan lets most of them stay as we have pretty much argued on here.

You cannot compare this statement with the 45000 stated in the Annan plan!
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Postby MicAtCyp » Mon Nov 29, 2004 7:02 pm

Mikkie,
Bananiot is a master of distortion, I think we all realised that already. We discussed the issue just 2 days ago, he admitted he was wrong, yet he comes back to his exact same wrong number. In addition to that he intentionally hides the fact that Christofias said in that same interview that "whereas the Anan plan talked for a list of 45,000 persons including their wives and children", Talats list did not include ANY of them!
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