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[Piratis]

Partition has been the demand of the Turkish and Turkish Cypriots extremists for decades. Unfortunately it seems that after 32 years of brainwashing the Turkish military that now rules Turkish Cypriots has managed to put this dream in the minds of the majority of Turkish Cypriots.

The great majority of Greek Cypriots has long abandoned their extreme aim for union with Greece. Will Turkish Cypriots ever do the same for the sake of a solution, or do they think that they now have the upper hand and they can therefore push for their maximum demands?

Talad (like his predecessor) and Turkey don't stop talking about their "trnc", and it became quite obvious that the leadership of Turkey (at least) is not willing to accept any solution that would truly unify Cyprus, but only "solutions" that would legalize the results of the invasion and make the partition permanent and official (e.g. Annan plan).

So the question is: Will Turkey and Turkish Cypriots ever voluntarily change their aim in Cyprus and accept that Cyprus should be a single nation, or they will insist upon their racist and separatist aims?

Partition of Cyprus as suggested in 1957 by Turkish Cypriot leader, Dr Fazil Kuchuk, in his pamphlet “The Cyprus Question: A Permanent Solution”, along the lines shown on the map. The proposed “Turkish part” is the shaded area in the north of the island.

[wogboy]

This is the first time I have written on the Cyprus issue. I believe in one Cyprus for all Cypriots with good relations to both Greece and Turkey. The key here is Independence, something which I do not believe Cyprus has, and is especially true at the negotiation table. The emphasis needs to be put back into the Cypriots (not the Greeks or the Turks).

Greece and Turkey should be encouraged to play a future role in the development of Cyprus, particularly the north. In effect, they should be made to pay for their nationalism and interest in the progress of this country.

The principle of compensation needs to be evoked and a financial scheme to sort out disputes over property rights to houses etc.

What I liked about the referendum was that the decision to unite Cyprus was given straight to the people. They voted on a plan they did (did not) like. The basic idea was right, the plan was a failure thats all.

As far as comments by politicians are concerned....all remarks are related to some hidden agenda. When you evoke nationalism to appeal to the masses, be sure that there is always some other hidden reason behind it (probably money).

[stuballstu]

Piratis

If memory serves me right Talat was elected on the basis that he wanted a "united" Cyprus which was completely different to Denktas stance of independence and acknowledgement of the TRNC.

I thought you might have known this for someone so well versed in Cyprus issues.

[Viewpoint]

Piratis only acknowledges what suits him, his ideals and comfort barriers are best served if Talat is demonised and placed in the same catagory as Denktas senior. He would do great service to the Cyprus issue if he got his own house in order first, if attribute equal blame for the current stalemate Papadop is 50% of the problem. Those that live in glass houses should not throw stones...

[cypezokyli]

talat in his interview on sunday explecetely said , that he knows that trnc will not be recognised. he explicitly said that partition is not his target.
ofcource tpap & co , understood sth completely different. all they can say is that talat follows the instructions from ankara.

i say, he does follow turkish orders. lets invite him for negotiations and show to the international community that he wants partition and that he doesnot care about reunification. why dont we make the world know that we are the good guys ? why do we let talat be the one who is constantly asking for negotiations ?




sometimes i have the feeling that denktash suited as just fine....

[Viewpoint]

You have hit the nail right on the head cypezokyli, thank you.

If there are no talks with GCs to resolve matters then Talat will go elsewhere, it has been reported in todays papers that he is scheduled to meet with the German foreign minister on friday in Berlin. Of course Gcs will jump on this opportunity and try to stop any such event and claim he is trying to get the TRNC recognized.

[Piratis]

What I said was clear. Or you read only what you want?

Talad (like his predecessor) and Turkey don't stop talking about their "trnc", and it became quite obvious that the leadership of Turkey (at least) is not willing to accept any solution that would truly unify Cyprus, but only "solutions" that would legalize the results of the invasion and make the partition permanent and official (e.g. Annan plan).

Isn't it the truth that Talad and his masters are not willing to accept anything that would truly unify Cyprus but only something like the rejected Annan partition plan?

talat in his interview on sunday explecetely said , that he knows that trnc will not be recognised. he explicitly said that partition is not his target.

Last time I checked both Talad and Turkey recognized a separate state in north Cyprus. If they claim that in north Cyprus a separate country exists then what is that other than supporting partition?????

It is like I start advertising myself as being a doctor and then say "being a doctor is not my aim". Can't you see the oxymoron of this? Not only partition is their aim, but according to them a perfectly legal partition already exists. If they don't want partition then they should stop referring to things like "trnc" and "trnc president" etc. Or do they admit they are just clowns?

[MR-from-NG]

Isn't it the truth that Talad

Please show respect to the president of the TRNC by spelling his name correctly. TALAT.

[stuballstu]

Pratis

you are making no sense with this one.

[MR-from-NG]

I've been reading his posts for months, I dont bother anymore. They are all the same rubbish, they never make sense. He lives in a different world, I think its called COCOO LAND.