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[sexysmudgerswife]

this again i know..i am smart as i am surrounded by people and things that love me, an attruibute i fear you lack thus all the bitterness!!

fear less hope less whine less breathe less talk less say less hate less love less, then you'll be so much easier to ignore!

[G.Man]

You are a prize idiot of the first order..

If you are such an expert, perhaps you would like to explain to everyone here how you train a cat not to wander?

I cannot believe you can condone the murder of peoples pets for wandering into someones garden...

IT IS ILLEGAL, it is illegal for a reason, it is not illegal for a cat to walk accross someones lawn to persue a mouse/lizard/bird...

Why do they lay this poison in public places? A child could get it on their hands before eating and then die....

I dont give a toss how many years you lived in cyprus for, it makes no odds, law breaking is law breaking... These people are CRIMINALS plain and simple... Murdering animal hating criminals... There is no way you can transfer the blame as I am not doing anything illegal THEY ARE...

Now unless IQ's dropped sharply in recent years I am right and you are wrong...

Just typical of the attitude most cypriots have towards others pets

You know what, just as you have a right to your opinion I do also. I havent called you any names but you have called me an idiot. Thank you very much for that. That is a personal attack and I am hoping you will at least be warned to respect others.
On a different note, I never said I condone people poisoning pets. I am very much against it. You just read what you want to read. Maybe I dont know as much about cats as a lot of people do, but I do know I see indoor cats all the time. Maybe you should read a couple of books on it instead of throwing a hissy fit and being absolutely rude to everyone.
Also I never said you are doing anything illegal, but you ARE responsible for your own pets. Your pets are your responsibility like your children would be. I am not the one who is going to tell you how to make it so they dont get poisoned. You are the one to figure it out and train them in that regard. It is sad if you dont like it, but that is how it goes.

Hey I call it as I see it... You claimed to be more of an expert on pet care in cyprus than I, I claim to be more HUMANE than the arseholes who put poison down to deliberately kill pets...

Stop trying to defend them you are wrong plain and simple...

* ... You dont have to agree, its not an attack, its my opinion...




Edited by Admin.

G.Man, what you wrote is a personal attack. Please do not repeat it.

[andri_cy]

You are a prize idiot of the first order..

If you are such an expert, perhaps you would like to explain to everyone here how you train a cat not to wander?

I cannot believe you can condone the murder of peoples pets for wandering into someones garden...

IT IS ILLEGAL, it is illegal for a reason, it is not illegal for a cat to walk accross someones lawn to persue a mouse/lizard/bird...

Why do they lay this poison in public places? A child could get it on their hands before eating and then die....

I dont give a toss how many years you lived in cyprus for, it makes no odds, law breaking is law breaking... These people are CRIMINALS plain and simple... Murdering animal hating criminals... There is no way you can transfer the blame as I am not doing anything illegal THEY ARE...

Now unless IQ's dropped sharply in recent years I am right and you are wrong...

Just typical of the attitude most cypriots have towards others pets

You know what, just as you have a right to your opinion I do also. I havent called you any names but you have called me an idiot. Thank you very much for that. That is a personal attack and I am hoping you will at least be warned to respect others.
On a different note, I never said I condone people poisoning pets. I am very much against it. You just read what you want to read. Maybe I dont know as much about cats as a lot of people do, but I do know I see indoor cats all the time. Maybe you should read a couple of books on it instead of throwing a hissy fit and being absolutely rude to everyone.
Also I never said you are doing anything illegal, but you ARE responsible for your own pets. Your pets are your responsibility like your children would be. I am not the one who is going to tell you how to make it so they dont get poisoned. You are the one to figure it out and train them in that regard. It is sad if you dont like it, but that is how it goes.

Hey I call it as I see it... You claimed to be more of an expert on pet care in cyprus than I, I claim to be more HUMANE than the arseholes who put poison down to deliberately kill pets...

Stop trying to defend them you are wrong plain and simple...

And that IMHO makes you an idiot... You dont have to agree, its not an attack, its my opinion...

Smudgerswhatever I wont even bother with you, you have been on the forum for a couple of days and I assume that makes you understand me and know me. G.man, again I never said I was an expert and I never said those people are doing the right thing. I just said there have to be ways to keep your pets away from the poison, but I guess you'd rather they get poisoned so you can whine. As Nikki said keeping a cat indoors is cruel, but it sure is better than it dying wouldnt you agree? The bottom line is right or wrong, the whole poison laying unfortunately is status quo, and it might change but until then, there is more you can do other than whine for what's happening to your pets-which includes trying to make sure to keep them away from it. I am sorry that you feel like you need to call me names because what I say you dont like. Fortunately where I live, I have no fear of my pets getting poisoned so I dont have to worry about it. But if you really care about yours, you just need to be a bit more observant. You dont like what I have to say and you call me an idiot. Thats ok, I didnt expect anything more or anything less.

[G.Man]

Its a bit late for me to worry about how to "control" my pets, which is impossible as I live in a house where the windows and doors are open a great proportion of the time...

They are both dead....

I shipped them to cyprus as they both were such loving animals spending a great deal of time basking in the sun and enjoying themselves...



Here you can see him enjoying life in cyprus, basking in the hot sun coming in from between the curtains in my TV room...

He was one of the best rat/mouse catchers I have ever seen, certainly a good thing for Cyprus...

I do think I have a right to whine and draw this to peoples attention as they may not know about this barbaric practice, and like me, might bring their cats and dogs to cyprus rather than rehome them, only to lose them because some asshole deems it a good idea to throw poison down, which I once again state is completely illegal...

Believe me, I am sorely tempted to setup infrared cameras to catch these idiots, and I have the equipment to do it....

Thing is it wont bring back my beautiful boys, and may not even catch the right person responsible for their murders...

I think that if you do not like the response you get, you ought to seriously consider the tone you imply in your posts when dealing with such a sensitive issue...

Laying the blame on the pet owners is just rediculous, yes something can be done to reduce the likelihood, but by far the best course of action is to catch the assholes and introduce them to the fat end of a baseball bat! However, unfortunately that would make me as bad as them...

[G.Man]

* ... You dont have to agree, its not an attack, its my opinion...




Edited by Admin.

G.Man, what you wrote is a personal attack. Please do not repeat it.

No its an opinion... I have no need to repeat it, my message was read

[Snad]

Hi G man,

My heart really goes out to you for losing your little boys. I can understand that you are angry, as I would be if anything happened to my dogs.
You are right that what these people are doing is illegal.
However a lot of the blame should lay with the RoC Government for allowing this hiddious poison to still be sold in an EU country, when it is banned in all other EU countries.
I know it is no consolation, but at least you won't have to worry now about your pets.

[unique_earthling]

I am so sorry for your loss, i dont know what i would do if my little wuffs were poisoned, i love them so much, they are so grateful to have been rescued and give me great pleasure.

I have seen so much cruelty here, infact i am saturated daily with it as i work at an animal shelter, i know its a world wide proplem but per capita Cyprus's ignorance and cruelty is pretty endemic, that is not to say there are not animal lovers here because i have met a few.

But the old ways are still being hung onto, and many cannot understand that its not ok to put a few hunting dogs in a metal box that i call ovens on the back of a truck in searing heat with no water. They think its ok to stick dogs in filthy cages with green stagnant water and chuck them a loaf of bread once in a while. These dogs rarely never go anywhere or feel the warmth and touch of a human.

Often they think its ok, to dump beautiful dogs on the rubbish tip or throw them out of a car on the motorway because they have tired of them or they cease to be useful. In the shelter this week, i have taken in 7 full bred husky's because various owners have decided thay dont want them anymore. These are the fashion dogs , before that it was alsations, akitas, boxers, i also have a bull dog who at 6 years of age is now so depressed. Every day we get 2 or 3 dogs that the owners dont want anymore after keeping them a few years.

Animals are sentient which means they feel, think and suffer pain, they get depressed, sad and feel loss. We rescue over 70000 dogs a year in a country smaller than some towns in England. Let alone donkeys, horses, cats and goats. All of which we give shelter too and as much love and care we are physically able too.

Poisonings are not rare they are a daily part of our lives, and again its the old ways of dealing with something Cypriots find irritating, and its indescriminate and not only kills the animal but also that which feeds off the carcasses. Its appalling and there is no excuse for it....

[littlemiss]

unique_earthling.......... lil question for you..................when you rehome these dogs do you sell them or give them away? Do you 'vet' the new owners? make sure they will look after them? How many of your dogs find new homes? What do you do if you dont find them a new home? Do you just keep them till they die of old age?

[unique_earthling]

We dont sell animals, the new owners pay for their vaccinations and microchipping and spaying or neutering. We vet the prospective owners, and you can usually tell who cares and who doesnt. i rehome from the shelter on average 3 to 4 a week, dogs rescued are around 50 or more a week. We keep all dogs the manditory 15 days, giving lost pets time to find their owners.....And in an ideal world it would be great if we had a no kill policy, but unfortunately we have to put to sleep dogs, our shelter is bursting at the seams, and it breaks my heart but they keep on coming and untill cyprus gets to grips with spaying and neutering their animals it wont abate... The sheer cost of feeding and caring for all the animals is huge and we get no government funding and even have to pay rent for the land and taxes even though we are a registered charity. Many dogs if they have had a really rough life, cruelty cases we keep them for as long as we are able, unfortunately many have weak immune systems and have not been vaccinated against disease and get sick. I wish we could save them all but then their would be millions of dogs on an island smaller than manchester... The answer is to educate people on responsible ownership, but the old ways of thinking die hard... We do have a spay cyprus program, but that for the cats, we spay as many as we can catch and then set them free again... but its an endless task and funding is by donations from people like your selves. Come and visit us and see what a job we have to face, all are welcome.

[andri_cy]

We dont sell animals, the new owners pay for their vaccinations and microchipping and spaying or neutering. We vet the prospective owners, and you can usually tell who cares and who doesnt. i rehome from the shelter on average 3 to 4 a week, dogs rescued are around 50 or more a week. We keep all dogs the manditory 15 days, giving lost pets time to find their owners.....And in an ideal world it would be great if we had a no kill policy, but unfortunately we have to put to sleep dogs, our shelter is bursting at the seams, and it breaks my heart but they keep on coming and untill cyprus gets to grips with spaying and neutering their animals it wont abate... The sheer cost of feeding and caring for all the animals is huge and we get no government funding and even have to pay rent for the land and taxes even though we are a registered charity. Many dogs if they have had a really rough life, cruelty cases we keep them for as long as we are able, unfortunately many have weak immune systems and have not been vaccinated against disease and get sick. I wish we could save them all but then their would be millions of dogs on an island smaller than manchester... The answer is to educate people on responsible ownership, but the old ways of thinking die hard... We do have a spay cyprus program, but that for the cats, we spay as many as we can catch and then set them free again... but its an endless task and funding is by donations from people like your selves. Come and visit us and see what a job we have to face, all are welcome.

Unique, have you tried doing a promotion where for a week people can adopt for free? Or do some kind of fundraising event? I am sure you have thought of all this but I am just wondering. We have an animal shelter here close to me that at some point was too full and they also have a kill policy. What they did was they put an ad in the newspaper basically saying if you come from the 28th-31st for example you can adopt for free. The whole place was empty by the end of those days. I know you guys spend money to neuter and vaccinate, but that way you dont have to kill them and it is not free all the time just for a couple of days. Or maybe you can say that they can [ay for example 20$ instead of the usual 40 or whatever just to draw people in.