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[Ali Dayi]

Saravakos, personally speaking the fact that Channel 5 pulled the programme due to the legal aspects of it's content is really besides the point. Censorship as I understand it is the systematic use of group power to broadly control FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND EXPRESSION. To reiterate, the real issue here is the fact that this Forum was openly used by numerous members to this effect.

[saravakos]

i was exercising my FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND EXPRESSION on something i felt needed to be circulated. no rules were breached so i cant see what your problem is.

[Alexis]

Saravakos, personally speaking the fact that Channel 5 pulled the programme due to the legal aspects of it's content is really besides the point. Censorship as I understand it is the systematic use of group power to broadly control FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND EXPRESSION. To reiterate, the real issue here is the fact that this Forum was openly used by numerous members to this effect.

Perhaps I should have been more specific - I was referring to the fact that the moderators of this forum have evidently condoned the censorship of a publicly broadcasted television programme about property development in the TRNC by allowing its members to utilise the forum itself as a pro-censorship platform which in turn led to the aforementioned programme being cancelled.

But not correctly. Of course this forum is censored. Anything that deviates from the pro Annan, pro Turkish , pro loving English thieves living in military occupied areas, pro Cyprus Mail, IN FACT ANYTHING THAT IS ANTI GREEK CYPRIOT THIS FORUM APPEARS TO ENDORSE.

As far as I understand it the moderators do not condone/endorse anything, they simply make sure that the rules of the forum are adhered to. The above arguments make no sense, for instance if a group of people on this forum decide to use it to arrange a picnic you cannot claim that the moderators somehow endorse that picnic (not the best example I know). Similarly, the moderators do not endorse the views aired on this forum. As long as the forum is not used as a platform to do something illegal (one of the rules of the forum) then the moderators do not intervene. No one forced Channel 5 not to air the programme, they made that decision and in addition no one did anything illegal by calling Channel 5. This is a forum for airing views, so if any member airs their views without breaking the rules of the forum (e.g. inciting racial hatred, abusing people or something like that) then it should be fine. I am not a moderator but I think that that they on the whole do an ok job of enforcing the rules which are imo spot on for a forum such as this.

[Ali Dayi]

i was exercising my FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND EXPRESSION on something i felt needed to be circulated. no rules were breached so i cant see what your problem is.

Saravakos, do you condone censorship?

[Alexander]

Hi Alexander

Can you back this claim up with examples?

Lana

There are too many examples to fit onto one post. For example, why do you allow English people that have settled illegally in the occupied areas on to this site?
Even worse, you allow them to advertise their "Homeowner" group.

[theresa]

Alexander, not EVERY person settled in the North is living in Greek Cypriot properties and not everyone who does are English!!! Some Turkish Cypriots using the forum may live in former greek Cyp properties, should they be banned too? And how the hell would you KNOW??? Ask people to scan and send title deeds before they are allowed to join? This is a forum for EVERYONE, if you want it to be just people that agree with you all the time, then i am sure there are other forums around for that. With regards advertising the home buyers pressure group - I agree that maybe this isnt the place for that.
Tess

[Alexander]

Alexander, not EVERY person settled in the North is living in Greek Cypriot properties and not everyone who does are English!!! Some Turkish Cypriots using the forum may live in former greek Cyp properties, should they be banned too? And how the hell would you KNOW??? Ask people to scan and send title deeds before they are allowed to join? This is a forum for EVERYONE, if you want it to be just people that agree with you all the time, then i am sure there are other forums around for that. With regards advertising the home buyers pressure group - I agree that maybe this isnt the place for that.
Tess

The simple answer is YES. Criminals that illegally occupy properties in the illegally military occupied Northern Cyprus should be banned. You have some nerve, to come on hear and lecture Greek Cypriots about fair play and freedom of speech. Don't pop on to this forum and pretend everything is rosy in your stolen garden. At least have the decency to keep quite about your crime.

[Svetlana]

Alexander

You complain about pro GC posts being banned; then you post accusing someone of being a 'theif'. If Theresa confirms my belief that she has not bought on stolen land I will delete your posting. I do not expect you to complain about it.

Lana

[TheCabbie]

Hello Lana,

Your point is well taken.

However, doesn't the very fact that the programme had to be rescheduled amount to a form of censorship?

People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought which they seldom use.
Soren Kierkegaard
Danish philosopher (1813 - 1855)


Enough said?

[theresa]

Just for the record, I live with my Turkish Cypriot partner in his house built on Turkish Cypriot land that has been owned by his family for generations. I have never condoned buying land or properties on Greek Cypriot land!!! What I am saying is that you cant allow or disallow members by where they live? I repeat - How will you ever know???
Tess