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[lysi]

Channel 5 Property Show about occupied Cyprus
On Tuesday 30th May at 8.00 pm Channel 5 intend to show a programme "Property Developing Abroad: Northern Cyprus" stating in the TV guides "Nottingham couple Carl and Jane buy an abandoned property in northern Cyprus, hoping to increase its value by £20,000 in 10 weeks. Presented by Gary McCausland".

Obviously, much of the property in occupied northern Cyprus belongs to Greek Cypriots who abandoned their properties and fled for their lives in 1974 when Turkey invaded Cyprus. Turkey still occupies one third of the island. Channel 5 is promoting the exploitation of stolen assets by making and proposing to broadcast this programme. By implication this is aiding and abetting invasion, occupation, theft and the denial of human rights to the Greek Cypriot legal owners of the properties by promoting the concept that this is legitimate "property development abroad".

We as owners of properties in occupied northern Cyprus must complain and protest, we must apply pressure for the cancellation of this programme, we must make our voice heard and email, phone and write to Channel 5 immediately. Hopefully, if they receive a large negative response to their proposed programme they will not broadcast it.

Please email Ben Frow, the Controller for this programme at: [email protected], phone: 020 7421 7118

Please email Channel 5 duty office at: [email protected], phone 08457 050505

Please contact Channel 5 at:
22 Long Acre
London WC2E 9LY
Phone 7550 5555
Channel 5 website is: www.channel5.co.uk

PLAY YOUR PART TODAY IF YOU ARE A REFUGEE OR ARE AGAINST THE EXPLOITATION OF STOLEN GREEK CYPRIOT LAND AND REGISTER YOUR COMPLAINT ABOUT THIS OFFENSIVE PROGRAMME TO CHANNEL 5 TV

[Justwantpeace]

Dear Piratis, I refer you as extreme, as in no matter what is said, you always say its so and so's fault, but never allow GC's to take blame for anything. I just think that a lot of your words are more harmful then good for Cyprus as a whole as you spend so much time defending against what people say rather than contributing towards a peaceful solution. miltiades defends GC's as well, but does it in a tactful, fair way. Its very difficult to argue with miltiades as he/she makes so much sense.

The TMT and another extremists that murdered innocent GCs pre 1974 + the Turkish invasion which had as a result 6000 dead and 200.000 refugees.

There were deaths and refugees on both sides. I have a lot of family that just disappeared between 1965 and 1970, My Granddad’s brother and his two sons disappeared in 1968 while going to get some bread from a nearby village, they were never found. At least 50% of my cousins were from South Cyprus, they had land that was with them for hundreds of years, which they lost. I told you before how my Grandma’s home and land had been knocked down and clubs built in its place. So please don't make out the Turkish have been causing all the suffering. All my Greek Cypriot friends have just as equally sad stories, but instead of us dwelling on it, we get on with life. I don't have any Turkish friends in London; about 70% of my friends are Greek Cypriots. Most of my opinions and views were gained from my GC friend’s families, so I hear all kinds of stories from the past.

We all have some bad feelings for what happened in 1974 and all the people who died, got raped, lost their homes. That is something that a lot of people arent forgetting. But the people who lived through it like my parents and my grandparents find it so easy to just want everything back the way it was and miss it. I think that the 2nd generation is the one that is bitter. I think the 3rd generation is looking back to peace and love between us again. At least I hope so.

andri_cy, I think you are very right. Most young Cypriots I meet nowadays are very up for peace and love between us. But unfortunately although most 3rd Gen Cypriots are for peace there are still quite a few 3rd Gen's that spend too much time with their bitter parents who encourage their children to hate the opposite side. As long as we all work together to promote peace, and to forgive and forget the past, we Cypriots will succeed.

The complaint from the rest of the family regarding the Greeks in Cyprus or Greece, comes down to " we just don't trust them"

Kikapu, I get the same thing from my family in North Cyprus. It's strange, it seems to be a common thing I hear from Turks in Cyprus, that they do not trust them. I have tried to re-assure a few of my cousins that they should put their pre-conceptions of the past behind them, but its very difficult. A lot of them don't feel they can put trust in people that constantly talk about LAND, as they feel they have lost land as well, but all they want is to be treated equally and to live their lives. Example: This stupid program that everyone is upset about, that is about buying in North Cyprus. I personally don't want the British to buy property in Cyprus until there is a resolution, as there are hundreds of Cypriots that should come first, but there is hundreds of British buying in South Cyprus everyday. They have over populated Spain and France, now they want Cyprus

[andri_cy]

Dear Piratis, I refer you as extreme, as in no matter what is said, you always say its so and so's fault, but never allow GC's to take blame for anything. I just think that a lot of your words are more harmful then good for Cyprus as a whole as you spend so much time defending against what people say rather than contributing towards a peaceful solution. miltiades defends GC's as well, but does it in a tactful, fair way. Its very difficult to argue with miltiades as he/she makes so much sense.

The TMT and another extremists that murdered innocent GCs pre 1974 + the Turkish invasion which had as a result 6000 dead and 200.000 refugees.

There were deaths and refugees on both sides. I have a lot of family that just disappeared between 1965 and 1970, My Granddad’s brother and his two sons disappeared in 1968 while going to get some bread from a nearby village, they were never found. At least 50% of my cousins were from South Cyprus, they had land that was with them for hundreds of years, which they lost. I told you before how my Grandma’s home and land had been knocked down and clubs built in its place. So please don't make out the Turkish have been causing all the suffering. All my Greek Cypriot friends have just as equally sad stories, but instead of us dwelling on it, we get on with life. I don't have any Turkish friends in London; about 70% of my friends are Greek Cypriots. Most of my opinions and views were gained from my GC friend’s families, so I hear all kinds of stories from the past.

We all have some bad feelings for what happened in 1974 and all the people who died, got raped, lost their homes. That is something that a lot of people arent forgetting. But the people who lived through it like my parents and my grandparents find it so easy to just want everything back the way it was and miss it. I think that the 2nd generation is the one that is bitter. I think the 3rd generation is looking back to peace and love between us again. At least I hope so.

andri_cy, I think you are very right. Most young Cypriots I meet nowadays are very up for peace and love between us. But unfortunately although most 3rd Gen Cypriots are for peace there are still quite a few 3rd Gen's that spend too much time with their bitter parents who encourage their children to hate the opposite side. As long as we all work together to promote peace, and to forgive and forget the past, we Cypriots will succeed.

The complaint from the rest of the family regarding the Greeks in Cyprus or Greece, comes down to " we just don't trust them"

Kikapu, I get the same thing from my family in North Cyprus. It's strange, it seems to be a common thing I hear from Turks in Cyprus, that they do not trust them. I have tried to re-assure a few of my cousins that they should put their pre-conceptions of the past behind them, but its very difficult. A lot of them don't feel they can put trust in people that constantly talk about LAND, as they feel they have lost land as well, but all they want is to be treated equally and to live their lives. Example: This stupid program that everyone is upset about, that is about buying in North Cyprus. I personally don't want the British to buy property in Cyprus until there is a resolution, as there are hundreds of Cypriots that should come first, but there is hundreds of British buying in South Cyprus everyday. They have over populated Spain and France, now they want Cyprus

Yes I agree. We can do nothing but hope!

[lysi]

Channel 5 Property Show about occupied Cyprus
On Tuesday 30th May at 8.00 pm Channel 5 intend to show a programme "Property Developing Abroad: Northern Cyprus" stating in the TV guides "Nottingham couple Carl and Jane buy an abandoned property in northern Cyprus, hoping to increase its value by £20,000 in 10 weeks. Presented by Gary McCausland".

Obviously, much of the property in occupied northern Cyprus belongs to Greek Cypriots who abandoned their properties and fled for their lives in 1974 when Turkey invaded Cyprus. Turkey still occupies one third of the island. Channel 5 is promoting the exploitation of stolen assets by making and proposing to broadcast this programme. By implication this is aiding and abetting invasion, occupation, theft and the denial of human rights to the Greek Cypriot legal owners of the properties by promoting the concept that this is legitimate "property development abroad".

We as owners of properties in occupied northern Cyprus must complain and protest, we must apply pressure for the cancellation of this programme, we must make our voice heard and email, phone and write to Channel 5 immediately. Hopefully, if they receive a large negative response to their proposed programme they will not broadcast it.

Please email Ben Frow, the Controller for this programme at: [email protected], phone: 020 7421 7118

Please email Channel 5 duty office at: [email protected], phone 08457 050505

Please contact Channel 5 at:
22 Long Acre
London WC2E 9LY
Phone 7550 5555
Channel 5 website is: www.channel5.co.uk

How many of you have contacted channel 5 in the uk to register a complaint about this offensive programme ?

[billcarmicheal]

How can you tell a programme is offensive if you haven't seen it? I would really like to know

[lysi]

How can you tell a programme is offensive if you haven't seen it? I would really like to know

BILL, because this programme will encourage greedy people to buy property that is built on STOLEN GREEK CYPRIOT OWNED LAND. do you expect greek cypriot refugees to sit back and do nothing while there land is sold off to greedy people ?

[billcarmicheal]

My point is if you haven't seen the programme how do you know what the content is?Are we not capable of making our own minds up without censorship?Surely we should be allowed to decide for ourselves without any threat to GC properties in the north.The programme may well discourage buying in the north.

[lysi]

bill, how can i get my land back when it has been stolen and sold off to greedy developers, i want to return to my land , me & my family have been waiting for 32 years and now we have a programme that will encourage greedy people to buy property that is built on stolen greek cypriot land, how would you feel ?

I URGE ALL DECENT ANTI OCCUPATION PEOPLE TO CONTACT CHANNEL 5 TV IN THE UK AND COMPLAIN ABOUT THIS PROGRAMME TODAY AND TOMORROW 08457 050505

[Radio]

Bill,

The whole point of this 'Property Developer' series is supposedly to show how easy it is to make money from property developing in Europe, so it is unlikely to discourage people from buying in the north.

In truth the series so far has been very disingenuous, erroneously referring to increased post refurb valuations as profit when we know that the deal isn't done until the money is in the bank.

[Kikapu]

I was just wondering, where is Lysi to tell us what happened regarding this much hyped property show on channel 5. I live in Switzerland, so I cannot get the show here, because the inquiry minds wants to know.!!