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[Sotos]

Turkish daily Cumhuriyet reported this week that Ankara has started to work on a new plan regarding Cyprus on a Montenegro model,

According to the report, if UN Secretary-General Annan fails to take an initiative to convene new peace talks, Ankara will call for a referendum similar to the one held in Montenegro, where people voted for independence, ending union with Serbia.

Turkish Cypriots would be asked whether they wanted to unite with Greek Cypriot side or not. If the result is No, the TRNC administration and Ankara will declare the result to the world and the breakaway state will demand recognition, thus gaining the right to direct trade with the EU.

Turkey would raise this issue in the UN and the Islamic Conference organisation, the report added.

Which model will win the beauty contest? Swiss, Belgian, Latvian, Chekoslovakian, Montenegrian ... ?

What will the TCs and settlers vote in this poll? Will it matter?

[Piratis]

Yesterday somebody stole my car. Lets go ask him if he wants to keep the car or return it. If he says that he wants to keep it then he was the right to keep it based on the Turkish logic.

What more crap are we going to hear from Turkey??

[sadik]

Turkish daily Cumhuriyet reported this week that Ankara has started to work on a new plan regarding Cyprus on a Montenegro model,

According to the report, if UN Secretary-General Annan fails to take an initiative to convene new peace talks, Ankara will call for a referendum similar to the one held in Montenegro, where people voted for independence, ending union with Serbia.

Turkish Cypriots would be asked whether they wanted to unite with Greek Cypriot side or not. If the result is No, the TRNC administration and Ankara will declare the result to the world and the breakaway state will demand recognition, thus gaining the right to direct trade with the EU.

Turkey would raise this issue in the UN and the Islamic Conference organisation, the report added.

Which model will win the beauty contest? Swiss, Belgian, Latvian, Chekoslovakian, Montenegrian ... ?

What will the TCs and settlers vote in this poll? Will it matter?

This cannot take place in the near future with the current Turkish and Turkish Cypriot administrations. This puts both Turkey and the TCs in a difficult situation with the EU. However, I cannot say what will happen if we don't have a solution in the next few years.

[Kifeas]

Turkish daily Cumhuriyet reported this week that Ankara has started to work on a new plan regarding Cyprus on a Montenegro model,

According to the report, if UN Secretary-General Annan fails to take an initiative to convene new peace talks, Ankara will call for a referendum similar to the one held in Montenegro, where people voted for independence, ending union with Serbia.

Turkish Cypriots would be asked whether they wanted to unite with Greek Cypriot side or not. If the result is No, the TRNC administration and Ankara will declare the result to the world and the breakaway state will demand recognition, thus gaining the right to direct trade with the EU.

Turkey would raise this issue in the UN and the Islamic Conference organisation, the report added.

Which model will win the beauty contest? Swiss, Belgian, Latvian, Chekoslovakian, Montenegrian ... ?

What will the TCs and settlers vote in this poll? Will it matter?

When they will include in the referendum the 200,000 G/Cs that were ethnically cleansed from the north, and subtract the 150,000 illegally transferred mainland Turkish population, then they may perhaps have a valid or legitimate referendum result which they can present to the UN and demand the independence of North Cyprus.

Only screwed up minds can make a parallelism between the Montenegro referendum, in which the people that decided for its independence are the legal and indigenous population of this region, and the situation in Cyprus.

If they try something like this, they will become the laughing stock of the UN, because there is already a ECHR court decision acknowledging the ethnic cleansing of the G/Cs from the north, there are CoE reports acknowledging the illegal transfer of population from Turkey, besides all the UN SC resolutions. If they believe that the UN, the EU and the whole international community can brush all the above under the carpet and accept a referendum result from the occupied north to be valid and legitimate, then they are living in another planet on their own.

Yet, yesterday there was one G/C political leader (Anastasiades,) that took seriously the above ridicules and foolish claims and tried to use them as a scaremongering propaganda in order to score political goals against Papadopoulos.

[Kifeas]

Yesterday somebody stole my car. Lets go ask him if he wants to keep the car or return it. If he says that he wants to keep it then he was the right to keep it based on the Turkish logic.

What more crap are we going to hear from Turkey??

Among the funniest of all was also Serdar Denktash's claim the other day that he may use the Czechoslovakian model of separation for the case of Cyprus. As if Cyprus has ever existed -or is currently existing, as a federation between the North and the South, likewise the Czechoslovakian one, and is now possible to split apart into its parallel Czech and Slovak regions. I wonder if Mr. Serdar can tell us which is the Turkishcypriotland and which is the Greekcypriotland in our case, so that we can split them apart. These people do not mean to understand that what they call the Turkish side is not the legitimate and historical homeland of the Turkish Cypriots alone, but instead an area under foreign occupation, after the majority of its indigenous people have been ethnically cleansed and had all their properties been usurped, and they look at completely irrelevant cases outside, in order to find a window of opportunity.

It is foolish claims like the above that make the G/Cs not ready to accept a “federal” solution like that of the Annan plan (read confederal one,) because what they now claim but cannot possibly implement, they will come one day and claim it again, but in this case they will have more valid grounds to implement it because we would have already accepted the basis on which it will be allowed for them to proceed towards it.

[Sotos]

When they will include in the referendum the 200,000 G/Cs that were ethnically cleansed from the north, and subtract the 150,000 illegally transferred mainland Turkish population, then they may perhaps have a valid or legitimate referendum result which they can present to the UN and demand the independence of North Cyprus.

Well said. When they only allow their own to vote how can this be a democratic referendum?

[cupidstunt]

The problem with the Montenegrin model is that it will involve an amicable, negotiated split from Serbia, in which both sides will discuss allocation of resources, access to infrastructure and so on. In Cyprus, such a split would be far from amicable.

[Kikapu]

[quote="Kifeas?[/quote]When they will include in the referendum the 200,000 G/Cs that were ethnically cleansed from the north, and subtract the 150,000 illegally transferred mainland Turkish population, then they may perhaps have a valid or legitimate referendum result which they can present to the UN and demand the independence of North Cyprus. quote]

Wasn't some thing like this already done by Israel against the Palestinians back in 1948. Palestinians who were kicked out and replaced by the Jews from all around the world, not only lost their homes but land also. Doesn't Cyprus trade with Israel as does the rest of the world?. It's amazing how people ignore other peoples problems, until it happens to them. Since Israel has gotten away with it, Turkey might also.

[growuptcs]

Kikapu, It's amazing how people ignore other peoples problems, until it happens to them. Since Israel has gotten away with it, Turkey might also

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Kikapu, are you asking for a freebee?Fact of the matter is in the US, the Jews own the most capitol in America on top of being the majority in mostly all the top places, especially Hollywood. Until Turkey gets to that platform in America that the Jews have, America will never stick their necks out for them if they had to. Sad but true. I know how American politics works, and I know how Turkish politics works. America just tells Turkey what they want to hear with no actions. Funny thing is, is that Turkey is waiting for the Americans like a prophet. If they never came through for you just yet, what makes you think they will? Honestly.GCs are earning their respect politically, through hard work, constantly dodging the Turkish propaganda. What has Turkey done to earn respect, except bicker about what went on over 30 years ago, and all the judgements are against them not the GCs. Gotta work hard to earn respect. Turkey is good at asking for freebees. No one can respect that. Sorry to say, but its time to grow up now.

[paaul12]

Gotta work hard to earn respect.

yea, the gc's worked really hard 30 odd years ago to earn respect, what was it they done, o yea went around killing the TC's, you can earn a lot of respect doing this, is this what u r saying.