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Postby NeverSayGoodbye » Tue May 23, 2006 9:38 pm

This always happens when there is trouble in Turkey and when they are in the corner.
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Postby Piratis » Tue May 23, 2006 9:40 pm

If Turkey, and Russia in your example, don't agree with us, then by nature of the word's definition, it is a dispute. I'm not looking at your beliefs or mine but at what the dictionary says.


So if Cyprus today announced that Ankara belongs to RoC and not Turkey, would BBC from then on say "The disputed city of Ankara"?
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Postby andri_cy » Tue May 23, 2006 9:55 pm

Piratis wrote:
If Turkey, and Russia in your example, don't agree with us, then by nature of the word's definition, it is a dispute. I'm not looking at your beliefs or mine but at what the dictionary says.


So if Cyprus today announced that Ankara belongs to RoC and not Turkey, would BBC from then on say "The disputed city of Ankara"?



Or maybe if Turkey claimed the city of New York I am sure Americans would call it the disputed city of New York on CNN right? uh huh
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Postby reeshahn » Tue May 23, 2006 9:58 pm

You know nothing about being a pilot in the airforce. This is not about nationalism or something. This is only about adrenaline. These pilots do that all the time just for adrenaline and sometimes they have these kind of accidents.
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Postby Piratis » Tue May 23, 2006 10:05 pm

You know nothing about being a pilot in the airforce. This is not about nationalism or something. This is only about adrenaline. These pilots do that all the time just for adrenaline and sometimes they have these kind of accidents.

The question is why the Turkish military command allows/encourages their pilots to exercise their adrenaline in Greek airspace.
If a strict command was coming from the Turkish airforce commander ordering pilots to stay out of the Greek airspace, do you think the pilots would not obey?
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Postby Antreis » Tue May 23, 2006 10:17 pm

Turkey is supposed to be an ally of Greece as both countries belong to NATO.
So just imagine the treatment that non-Nato members have from this peace-loving nation.
How can Turkey ever be trusted acting in this idiotic ways?
How we Cypriots can ever trust Turkey.
How can anybody honestly believes that Turkey will honor any of the agreements it will make as far the Cyprus problem is concerned.
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Postby Mills Chapman » Tue May 23, 2006 10:35 pm

andri_cy wrote:
Piratis wrote:
If Turkey, and Russia in your example, don't agree with us, then by nature of the word's definition, it is a dispute. I'm not looking at your beliefs or mine but at what the dictionary says.


So if Cyprus today announced that Ankara belongs to RoC and not Turkey, would BBC from then on say "The disputed city of Ankara"?



Or maybe if Turkey claimed the city of New York I am sure Americans would call it the disputed city of New York on CNN right? uh huh


I can't speak for the BBC or for the Americans, but taking a step back, I would say that there is a dispute. Whether Cyprus in the first example or Turkey in the second example have any justifications to their claims is a separate issue entirely. Are there two parties having a disagreement? If so, it is a dispute.
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Postby Sotos » Tue May 23, 2006 11:19 pm

I found the root of the problem:

Greece's defence ministry has said that military jets routinely intercept Turkish jets that invade the country's airspace on a daily basis.

Turkey regularly denies the claims, saying they fly only in international airspace. However, while Athens claims that a 10-mile zone around its coast also extends to its airspace, Turkey only recognises a six-mile zone.


Can somebody tell me how many miles of airspace other countries and Turkey have around their coast? 10 or 6?
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Postby saravakos » Wed May 24, 2006 12:47 am

reeshahn wrote:You know nothing about being a pilot in the airforce. This is not about nationalism or something. This is only about adrenaline. These pilots do that all the time just for adrenaline and sometimes they have these kind of accidents.

it happens because turkey violates our airspace day after day...this was waiting to happen and its a tragedy that someone has lost their life.

they are in breach of UN and EU regulations every time they violate our airspace. its a disgrace and something needs to be done. as for the BBC, they can take a hike. didnt even make the main headlines. you bet if it was a jewish plane brought down it'd be headline news.

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Postby miltiades » Wed May 24, 2006 1:18 am

Not in a million years would I trust Turkey to look after the interests of Cyprus, for that matter I would not trust Greece either , they would sell us to the highest bidder. My trust and loyalty is with Cyprus , we are a nation on OUR own right and the quicker we abandon hatred and realize that on this land there will always be Greek and Turkish Cypriots but all are Cypriots first , this is the only fundamental common ground that we share. Our Cypriotness .
It is a tragic event for the Greek pilot and his family but also for all peace loving people. Turkey must comply with internationally recognised boundaries although Im not certain whether Turkey has 6 or 10 miles of air and sea area.
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