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[Sotos]

EDI that still supported the Annan plan didn't manage to take a seat in the parliament. DISY that supported the Annan plan was forced to change its opinion in order to retain its supporters. Can we now say that the Annan plan is finally buried?

[Issy1956]

Almost certainly the Annan plan is now dead-no respectable GC political leader will put his reputation behind resurrecting this failed plan. However something very similar to it with minor changes will probably return in its place some time in the future and be called something completely different. How about calling it the Tassos and Talat plan mark I?

[cypezokyli]

soto , have you listened on thirsday what the the ecretary genenal of the party you have voted for, has said ?

[Sotos]

I don't think Tassos will accept a plan similar to Annan plan to be named after him

[Sotos]

soto , have you listened on thirsday what the the ecretary genenal of the party you have voted for, has said ?

What did he say?

[cypezokyli]

actually he didnot express his position, but quoted the presidents speech on akels 20th "gathering"

christofias quoting tpap

Στο κρίσιμο ερώτημα, για το αν το σχέδιο Ανάν αποτελεί τελικά βάση για διαπραγμάτευση, αντί άλλης απάντησης, ο γ.γ. του ΑΚΕΛ, επιστράτευσε εντέχνως τις δηλώσεις του ιδίου του Προέδρου της Δημοκρατίας, στο συνέδριο για τα 80χρονα του ΑΚΕΛ, αλλά και στο 20ο συνέδριο του κόμματος. "Είπε ο Πρόεδρος στο συνέδριο: Όπως έχω πει πολλές φορές δημόσια, το σχέδιο του γ.γ. του ΟΗΕ δεν μπορεί να εξαφανιστεί από το τραπέζι. Αποτελεί τη βάση για περαιτέρω διαπραγματεύσεις, που με εκείνες τις αλλαγές που θα προσπαθήσουμε να επέλθουν μέσω των διαπραγματεύσεων, θα το καταστήσουν αποδεκτό από τον κυπριακό λαό στο σύνολό του", τόνισε ο κ. Χριστόφιας. Υπενθύμισε ακόμη την αναφορά του Προέδρου στο 20ο συνέδριο του ΑΚΕΛ ότι στο Εθνικό Συμβούλιο συζητήθηκαν οι αλλαγές που τα διάφορα πολιτικά κόμματα εισηγήθηκαν επί του σχεδίου Ανάν και ότι κατά τον Πρόεδρο "το σχέδιο ήταν η βάση για τις αλλαγές και συνεπώς παραμένει βάση, είναι όμως θέμα υποκειμενικής κρίσης, αν όταν επιτευχθούν αυτές οι αλλαγές, η βάση του σχεδίου αλλάζει".

http://www.politis-news.com/cgibin/hweb ... vearticles

now why would christofias want to say sth like that ?
does the above appear as reffering to sth "dead" ?
let me remind you that some clever guy sometime ago said:" nobody abroad refers to the annan plan anymore, only some people in cyprus"

and what do you know ?
suddenly christofias refers to that dead plan , and actually he is quoting tpap saying : such plans never leave the table.

so when you say "dead" what do you mean ?
are you sure you know your partys position on anan plan 3 for example ?
do they consider that "dead" ?
if it is -according to tpap and akel - the basis for negotiations , then its not dead. its alive and kicking , with only some parts of it being sick that need a cure. or else we should redefine the word "basis" and "dead"

if after reading the above you have understood if the political leadership considers AP as a basis or dead , let me know....
thats the million dollar question.
what the **** do they mean ?
what the **** do they want ?

if you know the answer let me know

[Antreis]

Politicians love to talk about dead things and dead people.
If the Anan Plan is resurrected, i hope that people will give it a deadly blow once more.
What Mr. Christofias means is that some of the Anan's Plan ideas can be used for further discussions.

[cypezokyli]

its not mr christofias, its tpap
and what he sais , and knows , is that what our elected presidents have accepted throughout all these years (from makarios to tpap) are on the table , and it is not that easy to leave the table for the simple reason that these people were our elected representatives.
we elected them (supposingly) bc we knew their history and we agreed with them on the cyppro.

[Piratis]

and what he sais , and knows , is that what our elected presidents have accepted throughout all these years (from makarios to tpap) are on the table

I have to remind you that you Tassos has not accepted the Annan plan, something that is in accordance with the will of the Cypriot people.

Unfortunately some others before him had stolen the votes of the people and agreed to things that the Cypriot people would not agree.

The Annan plan can be on the table, under the table or in the fridge, but it (or anything similar) will never be accepted to become the "solution" of the Cyprus problem.

[Viewpoint]

and what he sais , and knows , is that what our elected presidents have accepted throughout all these years (from makarios to tpap) are on the table

I have to remind you that you Tassos has not accepted the Annan plan, something that is in accordance with the will of the Cypriot people.

Unfortunately some others before him had stolen the votes of the people and agreed to things that the Cypriot people would not agree.

The Annan plan can be on the table, under the table or in the fridge, but it (or anything similar) will never be accepted to become the "solution" of the Cyprus problem.

Piratis dont you accept even 10% of the basics in the Annan plan? or the fact that land would be returned or that the army would leave or that settlers had to leave?? Im not talking to time frames and amounts but the actual elements which you yourself have been chanting for?