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[saravakos]

We did nothing Andry other than blaming all the planet apart from ourselves!

It is Unfair to Greece to blame only Greece and not allocate responsibilities at home as well. Maybe the biggest responsibility! I dont like to sound melodramatic but acknowledging some responsibilities will not harm anyone!

Thats what I was getting at michalis. You really sound like you want to blame Greece and all, but we are responsible too. Greece was in a turmoil too at that time and it was our job to stand up to the coup if we didnt like it. We need to man up to what we did and didnt do and then try to point at others.

History clearly states that then government of Greece did play a role in the 1974 fiasco by allowing the invasion to take place. However since then any legal government that succeeded junta had done their up most to rectify that mistake.

Also if you look closely to the historical evidence the first to initiate the division idea were the English that were unwilling to give up their right to the island. Then USA and USSR got involved and Turkey drew the short straw and committed the invasion because the Cypriots wouldn’t willingly agree to the idea of separation.

So it is a collective blame and to be honest the Greek junta were pushed to agree to the invasion because the USA offered to help them to attain credibility.

from what i've read in this thread, greek goddess is the most accurate as i know it.

at the end of the day, the UK and america played greece and turkey like fools against each other and acheived their goal for partition.

funny how the UK reporters were right there when the turkish paratroopers were dropping in...

[G.Man]

Yeah coz whenever the UK makes a top secret plan to split a nation, allow an invasion by another nations forces it always informs the press first so they get a front row seat

[Natty]

The Junta should take some responsibility, yes. Peace!

[Kartal_Aetos]

Every1 stop blaming Greece as a country...end of the day the Junta were carrying out an ideal which was in CYPRUS created by GREEK CYPRIOTS in 1883...also, u cant blame all the people of EOKA...Nikos Samson and General Grievas were the head of the snake...they brainwashed young greek men into believing their ideals and that Cyprus belonged to greece...you can never blame a soldier...a soldier fights for what he believes in and usually believe in what they are told...you only know what u see...if i told u that the english were killing your people u would take arms and head to war aswell...i would do the same without even thinking about it...lets not forget that powerful words (despite being lies) are still powerful in essence

[Natty]

Hi, I'm sorry but I don't entirely agree with that.....

[Kartal_Aetos]

natty...discussion forum...u must elaborate for us to discuss

[Alexis]

Every1 stop blaming Greece as a country...end of the day the Junta were carrying out an ideal which was in CYPRUS created by GREEK CYPRIOTS in 1883...also, u cant blame all the people of EOKA...Nikos Samson and General Grievas were the head of the snake...they brainwashed young greek men into believing their ideals and that Cyprus belonged to greece...you can never blame a soldier...a soldier fights for what he believes in and usually believe in what they are told...you only know what u see...if i told u that the english were killing your people u would take arms and head to war aswell...i would do the same without even thinking about it...lets not forget that powerful words (despite being lies) are still powerful in essence

I agree except with your very first statement. The Junta were not just carrying out an ideal which was created by Greek Cypriots in 1883 (probablky before that even) but they qualified that by massacring innocent TC civilians, which was certainly not the ambition of the majority of GCs, either in 1883 or in the 1960s. I believe this distinction needs to be made.

[Kartal_Aetos]

you could be right alexis...unfortunately i dont know the full truth about EOKA...but as far as i know, why blame the whole country for a few peoples mistakes???