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[Piratis]

Andry, just do a google for the legality of Turkeys intervention and see for yourself if the international community accept it as legal or illegal.

Here you go from the most official institution of the international community:

S/RES/354 (1974)

20 July 1974


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RESOLUTION 353 (1974)

Adopted by the Security Council at its 1771st meeting,
on 20 July 1974



The Security Council,

Having considered the report of the Secretary-General, at its 1779th meeting, about the recent developments in Cyprus,

Having heard the statement of the President of the Republic of Cyprus and the statements of the representatives of Cyprus, Turkey, Greece and other Member States,

Noting also from the report the conditions prevailing in the island,

Deeply deploring the outbreak of violence and the continuing bloodshed,

Gravely concerned about the situation which has led to a serious threat to international peace and security, and which has created a most explosive situation in the whole Eastern Mediterranean area,

Equally concerned about the necessity to restore the constitutional structure of the Republic of Cyprus, established and guaranteed by international agreements,

Conscious of its primary responsibility for the maintenance of international peace and security in accordance with Article 24 of the Charter of the United Nations,

1.Calls upon all States to respect the sovereignty, independence and territorial integrity of Cyprus.

2.Calls upon all parties to the present fighting as a first step to cease all firing and requests all States to exercise the utmost restraint and to refrain from any action which might further aggravate the situation;

3.Demands an immediate end to foreign military intervention in the Republic of Cyprus that is in contravention of the provisions of paragraph 1 above;

4. Requests the withdrawal without delay from the Republic of Cyprus of foreign military personnel present otherwise than under the authority of international agreements, including those whose withdrawal was requested by the President of the Republic of Cyprus, Archbishop Makarios, in his letter of 2 July 1974;

5. Calls upon Greece, Turkey and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland to enter into negotiations without delay for the restoration of peace in the area and constitutional government of Cyprus and to keep the Secretary-General informed;

6. Calls upon all parties to co-operate fully with the United Nations Peace-keeping Force in Cyprus to enable it to carry out its mandate;

7. Decides to keep the situation under constant review and asks the Secretary-General to report as appropriate with a view to adopting further measures in order to ensure that peaceful conditions are restored as soon as possible.

Adopted unanimously at the 1781st meeting.

Greece is of course responsible for her actions. But the actions of Greece can not be an excuse for the actions of Turkey. It is like telling us that because Bin Laden hit the USA on 9/11 which resulted to some thousands deaths, that then somebody else had also the right to hit USA and cause to them millions of casulaties.

Cyprus fall victim of both Grecce and Turkey, with the difference that Greece caused to Cyprus a problem only for some days, while Turkey continues to insist on illegalities and crimes with an excuse that expired 32 years ago!

Just like the fascist regime that ruled Greece at that time has fallen and since then Greece respects international law and the sovereignty of Cyprus, it is time that the fascist military regime that continues to rule Turkey also to fall and finally Turkey to show some respect to the independence and sovereignty of the Republic of Cyprus.

[Kifeas]

You guys amaze me. Its a simple question with an equally simple answer. Would Turkey have "invaded" Cyprus if Greece hadn't started the coup?

The answer is yes! Turkey has been planning for an invasion and partition of Cyprus since the early 1960’s. It had attempted an invasion at least 3 times before 1974, but was prevented on the last minute by US interventions, besides the fact that it also did not have adequate military capabilities to carry out a major landing operation via the sea during its previous attempted efforts. It was prevented in late 1963, in August 1964 and in 1967. Since 1970/71, it has also developed the necessary landing fleet which it based in the southern ports of Antalia and Mercina, and was simply waiting for necessary pre-text to begin the invasion. Should the pre-text would not have been provided by the G/Cs, it had plans to provide it by her self through the incitement of a mini conflict crisis somewhere in Cyprus between the G/Cs and the T/Cs. The T/Cs knew about Turkey’s plans and under Denktash’s leadership they were also preparing for its facilitation internally. The G/Cs knew about turkey’s plans too, and they had also found maps in the possession of T/Cs which indicated the various phases and areas to be occupied. The north Nicosia /Agyrta enclave was the major preparatory center for the internal facilitation of the Turkish invasion, in which T/C fighters were continuously been trained by officers from Turkey. There was also a Turkish commando unit, besides the Turkish contingent specified by the 1960 agreements, which was stationed in this enclave and whose mission was to facilitate the landing of Turkish troops in Cyprus. The fact that as soon as the coup took place, it took Turkey only five days to send its army to start landing in Cyprus, proves the fact that it was well prepared and on call on a 7/24 basis. Under normal conditions, it would have taken any country at least 2-3 weeks to get prepared and start military operations of such a scale in a foreign country that is separated by a sea. The coup against Makarios was the pre-text that Turkey (and the T/C leadership) was longing for, long time before 1974. This was also well known to the G/C community, and it was also continuously preparing to face such an eventuality, since the 1963/64.

Would the island have been divided? Would you have lost your land and property? If you cant accept the fact that Greece and Greece alone is responsible for what happened in 74 then you are simply living in denial.

My friend, your above arguments are pathetic! I am afraid that it is you who lives in denial. Denial of not just of the real facts, but also in denial of what your logic implies to you in this case. I suggest you investigate more seriously and thoroughly the fairy tails you have been served by the propaganda machinery in the north and in Turkey.

I will ask you a simple question, and I am sure from the answer you will give to me, you will also realise how illogical your above claim is. Can you tell me why Turkey invated in 1974? Can you also tell me what Turkey officially alleged to be the reasons why it invated?

[andri_cy]

Andry, just do a google for the legality of Turkeys intervention and see for yourself if the international community accept it as legal or illegal.

Yes you might have a point in defending Greece as a whole, but the reality is that the people responsible were true representatives of this country. No?

btw, whats with the frog? My sig is mrfromng how do you come up with frog, Prince yes but frog, I DONT THINK SO.

your whole name is so complicated to remember LOL
Somehow I thought it was saying mrfrogmn and it stuck in my mind and I never doublechecked

[Kifeas]

Andry, just do a google for the legality of Turkeys intervention and see for yourself if the international community accept it as legal or illegal.

Yes you might have a point in defending Greece as a whole, but the reality is that the people responsible were true representatives of this country. No?

btw, whats with the frog? My sig is mrfromng how do you come up with frog, Prince yes but frog, I DONT THINK SO.

The Turkish invasion was illegal! It was in violation of the UN Charter which is the ultimate and the pinnacle of international law, and which requires for a UN Security Council authorization for any country to intervene militarily in another country member of the UN, irrespective of any other side agreements. Turkey did not obtain any such a UN SC approval /resolution. Consequently it violated the UN charter, and its invasion and occupation of Cyprus is illegal in the context of international law.

If you have such credible assurances that back your claim that it was legal, then I would like you to post them here. You do the google and you point to us the links!

[kalahari]

Yor name may be mrfromng, but you'll always be frog to us. Anyway, it's kind of cute, and it shows our affection for you!

[growuptcs]

Only Turkey is responsible for what happened in 1974. Considering that Turkey never followed democratic rules before, they took it upon themselves to settle it their own way instead of giving a grace period to restore order and give everyone back their homes. They planned for this so it could be so difficult to do, that they claim it cant be done.
Democratic countries that run especially on human rights, are at their peak respecting human rights. How is Turkey going to get itself on track in a short amount of time by going against humane rules in Cyprus? By waiting to convince the international community that they're the victims. When is this drama going to end?

[TheCabbie]

Based on some of the answers; Turkey and the Turkish people can't be responsible either, only their military leaders (not elected by the Turkish people) and some of their politicians...
So lets blame the Brits for everything and feel better about ourselves.

[michalis5354]

The coupe has been originated in Athens! Greece failed to protect the GCs in the invasion happened in 74 . Greece was a guarantor (According to Zyrich aggreements)first and a motherland secondly. It is so sad to see people justifying Greece and blaming the whole planet instead.

Of course also Turkey is also to blame but where does the rensponsibility of Greece go?

[michalis5354]

It seems michalis wants to just blame Greece for everything and get it over with

No. This is not want I want . Put also Greece into equation when you blame the whole planet!

[michalis5354]

Whether Greece was governed by a fascist regime or not this is not relevant. It represented the whole country and the people at that time. Since it was a fascist regime does this mean has no responsibility on its actions! WHat would happen If this fascist regime in Greece decided to invade Cyprus and kill all people, wouldnt be responsible because it was fascist?