BlondeTatiana wrote:
Is it me or is it lately Cypriots and Greeks are accepting turks? Have they forgotten what they did to us for centuries? Not only to us but to many other nations. I cannot stand these people They are barbarians.
hmm interesting topic.
we are barbarians and this girl is civilized eh? yeah funny. Lately I realized that bashing Turkish people at all cost is so trendy in all political talks between all nations ruled under ottoman empire. So I tried to understand this blind hatred and yet, I couldnt.
Hey you civilized(!) tatiana, after tons of googling I realized that,, Greeks didn't show any sign of civilization since Fatih Sultan Mehmet took istanbul, erased the Byzantine empire from the history forever and yet let them live in their shame.
I guess living under the ottoman rule for more than 6 centuries made you THAT nationalist/racist. Since my nation
never ruled under some other power I can’t understand your motive. Maybe you have right to act like that.
So how come your nation carried its culture and religion today after 600 years of barbaric(!) rule? whether it was barbaric or not (well, the word barbaric is such an subjective term) let me tell you how you can speak your mother tongue today.
We let you.
during all those centuries, we let you live and let you believe and workship whatever you believe and we let you speak your language too. Why didn't ottomans kill all of you in the first place if they were that barbaric?
Back to definition on Barbaric, was raping and killing Turkish people in Cyprus between 1960-1974 barbaric? was killing more than 80.000 people in Mora in 1821 barbaric? was TRYING TO INVADE western anatolia and killing thousands of people barbaric? after you answer these questions maybe we can discuss about what barbaric means.
The turkish hatred became more and more vivid in last century but the probably you were angry with yourselves.
That’s why you exist today because we want you to exist. You had your free state after 600 years of living ruled by Turks. Will there be a free nation of native americans somewhere within United States ever? Which one is more barbaric? Americans or Turks?
You are angry with yourself becuase of your self impotence.
First example is your funny attempt to invade western Anatolia. (you killed thousands of people though which make me think twice if I should use the word funny in this sentence) Although you have the supreme support of all great powers of that time, ( British empire, USA , Italy and France)- well of course not for loving you, they all had their own plans- we drowned those rapist soldiers in the salty waters of agean see.
Back to today we see that nothing has changed about your civilization level. Even with the enourmous support of EU, let alone the animal rights, you don’t even show any improvements on Human Rights!
You bring so called human right issues about Turkey when it comes to EU negotiations but you torture socially and politically Turkish people and all other muslim minorities in western Tracia.
You don’t even let muslims to built a single mosque in Athens. ( Funny thing is ortodoks religious leader - don’t know his name something pupulos, tacos, pacos whatever since I'm an atheist this all christian muslim thing is something in vain for me and yes religion is the biggest enemy of human kind - lives in istanbul for centuries! Maybe we should close that place forever and turn it into a museum of diversity reflecting the understanding of Ottoman empires multicultural approach.)
So where is human rights? Are you really qualified to be an EU member when it comes to Human Rights? Hell No. Finally it is so easy to understand your nationalist reaction Because all you have left is your nations name and some bronze statues from ancient times when it comes to be civilized.
it’s time to wake up Greece, your nature of being incabable of doing things right (even when you have huge supports) is not your fault. it’s not genetic either. it’s beacuse otomans took care of everything for a looong time and now you became a racist country with lazy people. See? This is just a social thing. You can work on it. You can start with few things such as; realize that the term civilization doens’t anything to do with some 2000 years old statues and stone buildings. Try to live with the facts of today and stop hating Turkish people because it has no point and no gain for you, just so much anger in vain. Drop it. You living under ottomans rule wasn’t our fault. it was your fault! Face it.
Ottoman empire was the largest power of its time with lots of land and lots of nations although Turks formed the empire, since its system based on multiculturism, every nation found its place in ottoman palace and all other governing facilities. So blaiming Turks for what happened good or bad back then is as stupid as blaiming founders of the USA for american's foreign policy of today. So finally if you want to civilize, leaving your blind hatred would be a good start.
