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Turkish Cypriot properties in the south unoccupied? Discuss

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Postby Kifeas » Tue May 16, 2006 8:14 pm

kalahari wrote:This is teaching me a lot guys, please keep it up.

Kifeas, could you give me your opinion on the state of TC communities in the south? If you have not yet seen this map, I attach it for your interest, but it shows a very large number of TC communities in the south, pre 1974. I find it very difficult to believe that no GC has availed himself of any of this land. The alternative, which I find equally incredible (call me a cynic) is that the GC government and community elected to extract no vengeance on the exiled (by Denktash) TCs. I have formed this cynical opinion by listening to the fury of GCG etc.

Please tell me that this cynical view is wrong - I respect your opinion and believe that I can rely upon you for unbiased advice in this matter.

Kal


Hello Kal,
Unfortunately i see no map, nor do I be sure what it is exactly that you want to know. What do you mean the status of T/C communities in the south? Do you mean communities of T/C people that currently live in the south, or you mean the status of T/C properties and homes left behind in 1975, when almost all of the T/Cs moved to the north?

I also do not understand what you mean by the phrase "the GC government and community elected to extract no vengeance on the exiled (by Denktash) TCs."
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Postby andri_cy » Tue May 16, 2006 10:36 pm

kalahari wrote:This is teaching me a lot guys, please keep it up.

Kifeas, could you give me your opinion on the state of TC communities in the south? If you have not yet seen this map, I attach it for your interest, but it shows a very large number of TC communities in the south, pre 1974. I find it very difficult to believe that no GC has availed himself of any of this land. The alternative, which I find equally incredible (call me a cynic) is that the GC government and community elected to extract no vengeance on the exiled (by Denktash) TCs. I have formed this cynical opinion by listening to the fury of GCG etc.

Please tell me that this cynical view is wrong - I respect your opinion and believe that I can rely upon you for unbiased advice in this matter.

Kal

Kal no one is claiming that The TC's homes in the south are not being used because they are. The refugees would have nowhere to go if they werent using those homes. The catch is, that those homes are not theirs. They are the original owners'. They are just borrowing them if I can use that word. They have no deeds to them, no papers. If they die that land doesnt go to their children like my moms house would go to me. It is just not theirs. Now from the town that I am coming from which was equal in TCs and GCs in 1974, we have a lot of refugees. I believe that a lot of them that live in TC's homes ARE keeping them up as much as they can.
Some TC land has been used in General for the good of everyone in the south. The government claims to have the money to compensate for that. The government isnt out to get the TC's like you were suggesting you might expect them to because they or we or whatever consider the TC's as citizens of the RoC and why would they punish their own people? Gc's cant just go and put the TC land to use it is not theirs and they are not getting permission to do so. And something totally irrelevant but I thought I should say it: in my town many tc's stayed behind. No one ever did anything to them. There was a specific one that went and visited a neighbor of mine a lot when I was younger. I just learned from my mom she died recently of old age.
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Postby ivan hardon » Wed May 17, 2006 11:17 am

Viewpoint wrote:Ask him about the refugee houses build in Limasol on TC land.



tc. LAND THERE WAS NONE IS NONW WILL NEVER BE ANY AS GCS OWN ALL CYPRUS SOME FOOLS ON HERE WOULD SAY ......
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Postby Sotos » Mon May 22, 2006 5:07 am

I found a relevant link. It might be a bit outdated but still useful I think. Use the sidebar to navigate.
http://www.moi.gov.cy/moi/citizenschart ... enDocument
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Postby zetcar » Mon Dec 28, 2009 1:50 pm

so as a result, what is the out come ? can T/C get their land back if they have their deeds? where do they apply for their properties? what does the law say? if they are free to get their property, then why guardian of turkish properties doesnt allow them to get it back? does any 1 know whats going on at the moment...

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Postby YFred » Mon Dec 28, 2009 2:01 pm

zetcar wrote:so as a result, what is the out come ? can T/C get their land back if they have their deeds? where do they apply for their properties? what does the law say? if they are free to get their property, then why guardian of turkish properties doesnt allow them to get it back? does any 1 know whats going on at the moment...


If you are GC you can get justice. If you are TC then the only way to get justice is to move to the south for six months and have to find a place to live and work. So you must leave your live where ever you reside. That is roc justice.

On the upside DT is looking for somebody to cut his grass and apparently he pays the usual TC rates which is one tenth of a GCs rate. He may even let you sleep in his dog kennel if you do not bark too much to disturb his beauty sleep as he needs it.
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Re: Turkish Cypriot properties in the south unoccupied? Dis

Postby paliometoxo » Mon Dec 28, 2009 2:15 pm

kalahari wrote:Our friend Piratis has made this claim, with regard to all TC communities in the South. I would be interested to your thoughts and to see any substantiating evidence.

Those properties (Turkish Cypriot communities, houses etc) are still there waiting for TCs and they were not given to foreigners or to GCs (only for temporary use).


just take a look at the airport the owners moved the aiport to a new location the tcs will probably get it back..

where as the north is prepairing for official partition and the south for re unified land
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Postby zetcar » Mon Dec 28, 2009 2:34 pm

nice 1 :) we currently live at uk since 1962. and havent been to cyprus since then. it looks like people there hasnt been civilised yet. so sad :) anyway we had the right to get our property back because we dont live there. accourding to your 1991 laws.
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Postby paliometoxo » Mon Dec 28, 2009 2:56 pm

i see. well its not me that makes the laws. i have never even voted for anything yet..

england is a great place to be.. more opertunaty for work.

there are some in england that are still not civilised .. just like cyprus its far from perfect.
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Postby paliometoxo » Mon Dec 28, 2009 2:58 pm

zetcar wrote:nice 1 :) we currently live at uk since 1962. and havent been to cyprus since then. it looks like people there hasnt been civilised yet. so sad :) anyway we had the right to get our property back because we dont live there. accourding to your 1991 laws.


what stops you going back to cyprus if i may ask? and are you tc or gc? by the sounds of your named your tc.. i could be wrong..

btw welcome to the forum and merry xmas
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