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[Kifeas]

In 20 or 30 or 50 or 100 years down the road, any time we will be fully ready and fully capable and as soon as we catch Turkey to be absorbed with some other internal or external difficulty, we will cease the opportunity to solve the problem in the same way that it was created by Turkey in 1974.

Kifeas,

Are you a stand-up comedian, if not you have the potential.

Why?

[Strahd]

In 20 or 30 or 50 or 100 years down the road, any time we will be fully ready and fully capable and as soon as we catch Turkey to be absorbed with some other internal or external difficulty, we will cease the opportunity to solve the problem in the same way that it was created by Turkey in 1974.

Kifeas,

Are you a stand-up comedian, if not you have the potential.

why you turks are so sure about it? you are well known to be the most cowards in the whole of the world... all you did was massacre of unarmed and etnic cleansing. Wait... the armenian genocide and the pontian genocide are both goin to be internetionally recognised soon. A military coup is on the way after the elections, you have a state in ruins and you expect us to be afraid? Afraid of what, chained drivers in tanks so as not to run away?

[Kifeas]

In 20 or 30 or 50 or 100 years down the road, any time we will be fully ready and fully capable and as soon as we catch Turkey to be absorbed with some other internal or external difficulty, we will cease the opportunity to solve the problem in the same way that it was created by Turkey in 1974.

Kifeas,

Are you a stand-up comedian, if not you have the potential.

why you turks are so sure about it? you are well known to be the most cowards in the whole of the world... all you did was massacre of unarmed and etnic cleansing. Wait... the armenian genocide and the pontian genocide are both goin to be internetionally recognised soon. A military coup is on the way after the elections, you have a state in ruins and you expect us to be afraid? Afraid of what, chained drivers in tanks so as not to run away?

No, they indeed have a very big and powerful Army -thanks to all the on-going stuffing they get from the US, and they are not cowards at all! The worst thing is to underestimate your enemy and your future opponent!

[MR-from-NG]

why you turks are so sure about it? you are well known to be the most cowards in the whole of the world...

You are talking out of your poo-hole.

[Piratis]

No, they indeed have a very big and powerful Army -thanks to all the on-going stuffing they get from the US, and they are not cowards at all! The worst thing is to underestimate your enemy and your future opponent!

This is true. However what is also true is that Turkey is a very unstable country. USSR was big and powerful but unstable. The result: It broke into a 100 parts and they couldn't even control tiny countries like Latvia in the end.

The ones that can not see changes in the balance of power are people than know nothing about history and are very short sighted. The balance of power will change, and at some point it will even change dramatically.

If in Cyprus we do not have a state that is based on respect, democracy , human rights and the equality of all Cypriot citizens regardless of race/ethnic background/religion etc, and instead we have 2 opposing and conflicting groups then it is certain that the circle of blood will continue any gains will only be temporary and in the end all Cypriots will be losers.

[JustAnAmerican]

There was no threat lodged earlier. I work for the US Government here in Cyprus. One of your moderators can vouch for my employment. I have been in Cyprus for about 4 years. I come to the forum to get a general sense of a few issues. I have begun to see the talking points provided by the Foreign Ministries of both sides and it is like watching a head on car collision in slow motion. Except neither driver can see that they are heading for disaster. Both groups are NO WHERE near a solution or even 10 or 11 technical committees.
It is easy to confuse arrogance with someone who actually knows what your government leadership tells the US privately while publicly they speak a completely different story. It is a predication …… nothing more.

[sadik]

In 20 or 30 or 50 or 100 years down the road, any time we will be fully ready and fully capable and as soon as we catch Turkey to be absorbed with some other internal or external difficulty, we will cease the opportunity to solve the problem in the same way that it was created by Turkey in 1974.

Suppose this fantasy became real and you succeeded in doing this, what are you planning to do with the Turkish Cypriots?

[Piratis]

Suppose this fantasy became real and you succeeded in doing this, what are you planning to do with the Turkish Cypriots?

At that time Kifeas would probably be too old or even dead. As I said many times TCs and GCs are basically the same people. In the same way that TCs today are trying to gain on the loss of GCs and they don't care that GCs are ethnically cleansed and their human rights violated, be sure that GCs will act in a similar way when they will feel that they have the power to force things. This means a never ending circle of blood.

The only way to end this is to make all Cypriots equal citizens and not to have 2 conflicting groups of "us" and "them". Personally I feel responsible to try for this as much as I can. However I can not know how the future generations will be.

[Strahd]

In 20 or 30 or 50 or 100 years down the road, any time we will be fully ready and fully capable and as soon as we catch Turkey to be absorbed with some other internal or external difficulty, we will cease the opportunity to solve the problem in the same way that it was created by Turkey in 1974.

Suppose this fantasy became real and you succeeded in doing this, what are you planning to do with the Turkish Cypriots?

Look at the islamic minority in Thrace and you will get the idea...

[Strahd]

No, they indeed have a very big and powerful Army -thanks to all the on-going stuffing they get from the US, and they are not cowards at all! The worst thing is to underestimate your enemy and your future opponent!

This is true. However what is also true is that Turkey is a very unstable country. USSR was big and powerful but unstable. The result: It broke into a 100 parts and they couldn't even control tiny countries like Latvia in the end.

The ones that can not see changes in the balance of power are people than know nothing about history and are very short sighted. The balance of power will change, and at some point it will even change dramatically.

If in Cyprus we do not have a state that is based on respect, democracy , human rights and the equality of all Cypriot citizens regardless of race/ethnic background/religion etc, and instead we have 2 opposing and conflicting groups then it is certain that the circle of blood will continue any gains will only be temporary and in the end all Cypriots will be losers.

Big guns do not make a powerful army... it is intelligence and courage in combination with ig guns and numbers. However if you see the way the Turkish army has acted in the past you will see that they lack of both. So what you do with big guns if you have no idea how and when to use them. To give you an example the attila operations are actually taught in army schools in the USA as some of the greatest strategic mistakes in history of war. If Cypriots were united there could have been a single chance that this mpoulouki of cowards could have advanced further than the keryneia beach.