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[kalahari]

Hi guys

Have been investigating the roots of the problem, trying to get up to speed with things. Following a trail of names via Aihan Hikmet and Rauf Denktas, Nicos Sampson's name cropped up (yes, I really was/am that badly informed) and sniffing around HIM a bit, it starts to become obvious that Henry Kissinger had one hell of a lot to do with the existing status in Cyprus. If you're looking for a scapegoat, somebody to blame for the atrocities, look to Kissinger. He played Greece, Turkey, England all as if they were dummies. His clinical disregard for the consequences of his actions defies belief. This man was a complete and utter bastard. Right up there with Hitler, Stalin et al with his almost sociopathic contempt for the lives of millions of people.

The only thing that mattered to Kissinger it seems was the succesful playing out of his power game. He even broke US law to carry it out.

The manipulation of the politics in and around Cyprus was obviously very important to him.

My question is this:

WHY? What was his deeper purpose? To my knowledge there is no American presence in Cyprus now, is there?

So what was his meticulous construction of the Cyprus Problem all for? (Oh believe me, it was him that built it all right, everybody else were just pawns in his game.) WHY? Where was it leading? Or have I misled myself as to his significance in the role of architect? Is there some other strand beyond even Kissinger that I have yet to pick up on?

By the way, I am not normally an advocate of conspiracy theories, but I can't help wondering if Kissinger's grand plan for Cyprus (whatever that might be) is still in the process of being played out.

I'd love to know what you all think, guys.

Love Kal.

[Mills Chapman]

http://www.kmaglobal.com/ - In case you want to ask the man himself.

When thinking of Kissinger, keep in mind the three C’s – Cyprus, Cambodia, and Chile. Kissinger did each of them from behind just as painfully.

For Chilean style, read about this leader’s downfall: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvador_Allende

For Cambodian style, read about the time period of ’69-75: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambodia#History

Then there is Cyprus style.

[Greek goddess]

I read on the subject of Cyprus and the name of Kissinger was there all the way.

Kissinger is the foundation on which the misery that has befallen Cyprus was based


"The division of Cyprus was one of a handful of potential solutions for
the island proposed by Henry Kissinger in his role as US secretary of state,
before the Turkish invasion of 1974, Kissinger's then-deputy told Cypriot
television, according to reports yesterday. Kissinger did nothing to stop
the Greek junta's plans to overthrow President Makarios as he did not take
seriously the threat of military intervention by Turkey, Arthur Hartman told
RIK channel. Kissinger regarded Makarios as president of the Greek-Cypriots
only and considered him part of the problem, Hartman added."

http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/_w_ar ... 2002_18975

I mean the more you read of the secret documents the morew you learn about the role he played.
However the usa government is doing its utmost to cover him up

For example
Ambassador Thomas Boyatt, the Cyprus Desk Officer in 1974 who disagreed with Kissinger, was transferred to Chile in the fall of 1974. He had a distinguished career and was honored for his work by his peers. He has stated that the U.S. has a moral responsibility to redress the situation. In remarks on June 10, 1998 at a conference on Cyprus he stated:
"But above all, I blame the United States. We knew what was going on and we could have stopped it. When you are then one of the world's two super powers, now the only super power, you have huge responsibilities and the responsibility is to get it right and to do something about it and we did not do either. So when I throw out the blame, I blame most of all, my own government. . . .

[andri_cy]

wow goddess go get'em

[kalahari]

He's still alive?? Well there's your trouble guys, stop picking on each other and have a go at the man who started it all – he was at it long before the Turkish army ever set sail! (If you need some facts, let me know, and I'll put them your way.)

Is he a free man? He bloody well shouldn't be. Malaka, GCG – you want a one man target instead of a 40,000 man target? The single man responsible for your tragedy is Henry Kissinger. He had the biggest stick, and boy did he swing it!

[miltiades]

At the time of the Turkish invasion Kissinger made it very clear to all " Stability is prefered to justice " This philosophy of supporting the most beneficial to your country nation has been with us since the begining of time. Nations throughout history have alligned themselves with others from whom they would extract some benefits, America lets not forget alligned it self with groups of people more likely to serve the interests of the USA , I will not mention many but just a couple will do , Osama is one and Sadam is another. Perhaps our own politicians will take note of this and start looking after the interests of Cyprus for a change. After all if you look at Cyprus's alliances today you will see that all without exeption can do sweet fa for Cyprus .Even our biggest earner of foreign CASH derives mostly from nations that we are always moaning about. Turkey ,on the other hand , a muslem country, the only islamic nation that supports Israel ? I wonder why . As far Chille , Afganistan , Vietnam , Irag , Cuba , let me say I sympathise with all the suffering , most of it self inflicted , but It isnt my problem because I can no nothing to solve it, I will leave this to the Athenians they are the specialists at this type
of situations , you can guarantee that on some remote corner of the world an injustice occurs , the Greeks (Greece ) will be out demonstrating and as always the spokeswoman of the Nation , Communist party leader !!!
will appear everywhere pointing the finger towards you quessed it. Then we demand that the USA gives us its support , not because we are her friends , but because we are moraly right and deserve justice.
No Sir , Justice is like respect .You bloody well have to earn it. And we will earn it for Cyprus by uniting with our Turkish Cypriot countrymen and creating a new Cyprus , a new political spectrum that does not create divisions but seeks to unite all Cypriots .

[Greek goddess]

And we will earn it for Cyprus by uniting with our Turkish Cypriot countrymen and creating a new Cyprus , a new political spectrum that does not create divisions but seeks to unite all Cypriots .

Can this dream be possible?
I honestly believe that if the Cypriots are left alone there will be a solution.
However as history foretell this is highly unlikely

[Alexander]

Six million poor souls perish, and this worthless bag of shit manages to escape the grim reapers hand. Not to worry, if there is any justice, papa Beelzebub is keeping that warm welcoming hell fire for him.

[kalahari]

Lots of interesting comments, but can anybody tell me why Kissinger did what he did? Let me be specific: after supporting, arguably even orchestrating, the Sampson coup he then went on to actively support and even fund the invasions in the north, even using his veto to prevent other nations from stepping in to help out. Why? What was he trying to achieve? Was the Sampson coup just a diversionary tactic to allow Turkey in? Then why did he want Turkey in? Did he really fear Enosis that much? If so, why? Was it all an elaborate favour to Turkey, in the event that he needed their armies to help invade or destabilise Russia?

It makes no sense to me. I am left with the feeling that Kissinger, as a statesman, was both terrifyingly powerful and hopelessly inept. Is it really as simple as that?

Love, Kal

[andri_cy]

Probably out of spite, since the us had previously asked to be allowed to have bases and we said no. I think he childishly said I will show you....