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[MR-from-NG]

My dear friend Viewpoint,

Can you see the type of people we are trying to reconcile with? The like of Alexander make me wonder why on earth we would want reunification. I live in England and have plans to retire in a couple of years in Cyprus. Now, when you look at things from my side of the fence you wonder why on earth I would want to have anything to do with a community that clearly resent my presence on the island.

Look at Alexander referring to you as a squatter, how low can these guys get? The more I read these guys post the more I am convinced that we do not have the slightest hope in reunification. Maybe that's a good thing after all.

[Sotos]

Can you see the type of people we are trying to reconcile with?

I think you see only the people that you want to see to excuse the occupation mrfromng. Even worst is that you are not better than the people you accuse

[andri_cy]

I agree with Sotos. You tried to cover what you really feel for a while but eventually it came out. YOu said something absurd went away for a couple of days and thought it will be all good when you come back. In the mean time all the people who stood up for you insisted that you would of course apologize because it was in the heat of the moment. And since you havent apologized yet I think you really meant it.

[rolo]

well here's a clue to tc life pre 74



http://www.cyprus-conflict.net/chronology.htm

1963 Dec 21, intercommunal violence explodes. Truce force set up with British troops, Greek & Turkish liaison officers. Ceasefire after Turkish jets buzzed Nicosia. Casualties in first ten days (known dead & missing presumed dead): TCs, 136, GCs 30.

1964 January, London Conference. British, US efforts to create NATO force. Makarios announces abrogation of treaties (then backs away); TCs want partition. Denktash summoned to Ankara, return to Cyprus barred until 1968. NATO plan rejected by Makarios. February, brutal attacks on TC civilians in Limassol. March, UNFICYP established; British troops on island seconded to UN force. National Guard put under command of Greek army general. Some 20,000 TCs flee areas where violence occurred, taking refuge in enclaves; some Turkish villages looted and destroyed. June, Turkish invasion threatened. Grivas returns to command Greek army contingent; expanded control to National Guard leading Greek commander to resign. President Johnson's letter to Inonu deterring invasion; Acheson Plan for "double enosis" proposed and rejected. August, arms & men imported by both sides. GC attack on and capture of TC villages in the Tylliria area in effort to control the coastline led to Turkish bombing of GC villages which included the use of napalm. Ceasefire arranged.


oh by the way, that desnt include the 20 plus from my village killed by grivas and his merry boys in 67, or was that just propanda too?

[andri_cy]

I see a number of deaths in 1963 section but not in 1964 section?

[rolo]

with all due respect, its a big site, please look through yourself, im sure you'll find some more.

or write to the UN and ask them for their official figures, they were the official observers on cyprus to the world, they should have noted everything.

[Viewpoint]

My dear friend Viewpoint,

Can you see the type of people we are trying to reconcile with? The like of Alexander make me wonder why on earth we would want reunification. I live in England and have plans to retire in a couple of years in Cyprus. Now, when you look at things from my side of the fence you wonder why on earth I would want to have anything to do with a community that clearly resent my presence on the island.

Look at Alexander referring to you as a squatter, how low can these guys get? The more I read these guys post the more I am convinced that we do not have the slightest hope in reunification. Maybe that's a good thing after all.

What we have to do is not stoop to this persons level we have just as much right to be in this country than he does, u can not squat in a house you partially own. You should look forward to your retirement on this beautiful island. Things are improving every day in the north and will continue whether we have a solution or not. But as long as these extremists elements are not silenced and supported by people on both sides we will not be able to compromise and build a united Cyprus. The Alexanders of this country ensure that we remain divided for a very long time to come if not forever, So dont worry yourself about a solution, what does this change, the sun comes up every morning, we eat drink and are happy. As long as you have your health Im pretty certain you will enjoy living in North Cyprus.

[MR-from-NG]

Thanks for your comforting words Viewpoint. I will of course enjoy my retirement in my country, regardless of what my GC compatriots say or think about me. I know I am not a squatter, I know my land is mine and paid for and I know I have every right to be living there, it is my home. Keep up the good posts.

[miltiades]

Viewpoint , you are of course 100% correct , we will compromise because we all want a united Cyprus , would dissagree however with the suggestion "But as long as these extremists elements are not silenced "Im ceratin that Im reading it wrong , but you share my views that disaccord , disunity and divided loyalties will ensure that our beloved Island remains partitioned. There is hope yet to see one Cyprus for all Cypriots with out hindrance and interference from foreign nations .
Long live our Cyprus and its people.

[MR-from-NG]

I agree with Sotos. You tried to cover what you really feel for a while but eventually it came out. YOu said something absurd went away for a couple of days and thought it will be all good when you come back. In the mean time all the people who stood up for you insisted that you would of course apologize because it was in the heat of the moment. And since you havent apologized yet I think you really meant it.

Andry, why would I expect things to be good on a forum full of posts of hatred and utter contempt for the TC's? Or have I misunderstood you? perhaps you want me to be good and apologetic to my GC compatriots?

I have looked at all your posts, I have seen you post straight after another Greek calling us TC's murderers, backstabbers, thieves, squatters and many more other names. Not once have I seen you ask them to apologise nor have i seen you disagree with them.

My outburst was in direct response to the provocative posts by Malaka and GCG. You can only take so much abuse and then I guess you blow a fuse and do and say things that are totally out of character.

Please do not think I am making excuses here but the post in question was after I said I had been in hospital for a few days to which GCG wrote that I must have been in a "psychiatric hospital" or words to that effect when in fact I had e serious operation on one of my kidneys, then Malaka posted something equally offensive and I guess with the heavy medication I was on I may have over reacted and offended innocent people such as yourself for which I'm sorry.

But I must add, by nature I give as good as I get, you offer me a glass of your champagne in a bar, I'll reply to your kind offer with a bottle. You lend me a tenner in my time of need I'll willingly lend you a thousand in your time of need. You be a good neighbour to me I'll be the best ever neighbour to you. But you rub me up the wrong way I forget all this nonsense about political correctness and blah blah and give you back 10 times worse. If by reacting to such insults I'm showing my true face, true colours so be it. Damn nobody's perfect.