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[cypezokyli]

OK...
all the best

[andri_cy]

lets all agree to disagree

[Viewpoint]

Ask Piratis what type of human rights and democracy he will apply to Turkish settlers? The GC type....kickem out

[Piratis]

Ask Piratis what type of human rights and democracy he will apply to Turkish settlers?

I wish to the Turkish, Chinese, Spanish etc citizens to have their 100% of human and democratic rights in the same way I ask for Cyprus. The Turks (and Kurds) should definitely revolt against their military ruled regime and ask for democracy and their human rights.

In Cyprus those people are foreigners and of course their human rights should be respected but they also have to follow the laws of our country. They need a visa to be legally in Cyprus, and if they want to live here they should legally buy their property like the other foreigners do.

If they follow the legal procedures I have no problem with foreign citizens to be in Cyprus.

Unfortunately I am guessing that some TCs like Viewpoint want to gift to the Turkish settlers the GC properties. But viewpoint, if you want to gift properties to foreigners you should gift your own properties, not ours.

[Viewpoint]

Ask Piratis what type of human rights and democracy he will apply to Turkish settlers?

I wish to the Turkish, Chinese, Spanish etc citizens to have their 100% of human and democratic rights in the same way I ask for Cyprus. The Turks (and Kurds) should definitely revolt against their military ruled regime and ask for democracy and their human rights.

In Cyprus those people are foreigners and of course their human rights should be respected but they also have to follow the laws of our country. They need a visa to be legally in Cyprus, and if they want to live here they should legally buy their property like the other foreigners do.

If they follow the legal procedures I have no problem with foreign citizens to be in Cyprus.

Unfortunately I am guessing that some TCs like Viewpoint want to gift to the Turkish settlers the GC properties. But viewpoint, if you want to gift properties to foreigners you should gift your own properties, not ours.

Kindly remember what you have said in the past when we discussed this matter in depth, you wanted to kick them out, return them to Turkey, that was your GC version of human rights.
For arguements sake lets say these people do not live in GC properties, what is your revised version of human rights and democracy for these people???

[stuballstu]

Quote:
Can you explain what the ROC Government has "sown" in way of a settlement and do you expect anything to grow from these things which have been "sown"?

Piratis wrote
The RoC goverment has "sown" acceptance for legality with everything that goes with it.

Piratis

I take it the only thing, in you opinion, that the ROC has sown in way of a settlement is "acceptance for legality and everything that goes with it"?

and you wonder why the Cyprus problem has never been solved. Are you saying that the only thing the ROC government has done is this since 1974? Thats 32 years and thats the best they can do?

Have they done anything towards solving the problem apart from this?

[Oneness]

Viewpoint, technically, as defined by international laws, the Turkish settlers are party to an illegal activity and so they have human or democracy right to undertake an illegal activity. So while they could claim a human or democratic right to use or own a property, there is nothing to say they can or are entitled to enjoy property in the "TRNC", much of which GCs own and are entitled to a share.

IMO, it would actually be more practical if they were accomodated in Turkey because there is much more space there, and it would save us from the question of where to accomodate them in Cyprus. But, of course, technicalities can be oft overlooked.

[michalis5354]

There has been an article today in Financial Mirror written by Andreas Theophanous proposing 10 Fundamental guidelines for the solution of the Cyprus question . If anyone want to have a look at this then I can copy it here!

[boulio]

Please do.

[michalis5354]

I am sorry but I will do it maybe tomorrow as I checked the webiste online and the article does not appear online so I need to type it myslef and it is a long article. Maybe tomorrow I will see If I can type this briefly.

Anyway It does not mean I agree with his proposal but I thought it would be good to have some guidleines to based our arguments!

In Fact reading his article again I find myslef disagring with some of his points !!!