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Postby GreekCypriotGurl_UK » Thu May 11, 2006 5:35 pm

simon

Cypezokyli supporting any GC in an argument on the Cyprus issue- you're having a laugh aren't you. The guy is either, 1) An idiot, 2) A Turk or 3) A GC who is simply such a coward that TCs can hurl all the insults they want on GCs, but as soon as a GC tries to defend himself or fights back, Cypezokyli will be there without fail calling him a nationalist.

Do me one big favour Cypezokyli, please please stay in Germany. Or even better, live out the rest of your life in Ankara, I'm sure you'd just love it there.


simon i think cypezokyli is a GC who is scared of Turks i have not seen him called any TC a nationalist even though most of the TCs on this forum want Cyprus divided i been called a racist nationlist becasue i said the truth that the TC's who where liars and backstabbers to the GCs in 1960 i been told on this forum by turk appeasers that TC's are my compatriots that want Cyprus reunited lol :lol: well if thats the case why have i not seen one post from a TC on this forum saying they want Cyprus reunited and for the turk army and settlers to leave ? all i seen in TC's saying they want cyprus divided that its our fault turkey invaded well where ever the TC's want reunification or not does not matter to me we should find a way to re unite Cyprus with or without the TCs
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Postby cypezokyli » Thu May 11, 2006 7:04 pm

its bc people see what they want to see.
if you have formed an opinion beforehand then , ofcource you cannot see tc who are in favor of reunification.
in my language it is called : paropides.

we should find a way to re unite Cyprus with or without the TCs

now...where did I see that before... :roll: ...mmm....let google for a minute...
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Postby Simon » Fri May 12, 2006 11:54 am

Well,I don't think Cypezokyli is a TC and he doesn't think I am a GC.
I wonder why???


Neither do I. I was just commenting on how it is funny that even some TCs now think he is a TC. You are a bit different. You do not jump in every time a TC makes any comments about GCs, in the same way Cypezokyli does.

If you want me to post in detail you will have to ask me specific questions,Simon.


I have, I asked how Cypezokyli was talking sense to me and how I was not interested?

I wasn't necessarily refering to you with my comments.


OK, well that answers my question. Thanks.

As you said they were general,and sometimes that is the best answer.By the nature of these forums we often have to repeat ourselves,and sometimes it gets too boring.
What i object is people making blanket statements like "Turks or TCs are thieves and murderers".When you paint a whole nation or people with the same brush,that statement has to be racist.
You want me to go deeper? in 1964 my great uncle was killed in his sick bed.He was over 80 years old and could not run away from the GC thugs who attacked his village.He begged his people to leave him on his sick bed because he didn't think anybody would want to kill a sick old man.He was wrong. So does that give me the right to call all GCs bloody murderes.NO NO NO. All i can say is that the person who killed my great uncle was a pitiful individual who had lost his humanity for reasons known only to him. I can't say Simon or Piratis or Cypezokyli are inhumane murderers,because you happen to belong to the same ethnic group as those sad individuals who committed those crimes.
Nationalism and racism are two evils which has brought us to where we are in Cyprus.I spent most of my life (37 years) in a foreign country wondering why us Cypriots have allowed this catastrophy to befall our beloved country. I have not been to my village in Paphos for 40 years,and when I go I will find nothing there to remind me of my childhood. I just can't stand to see people looking for simple answers and someone to blame for the whole tragedy,without thinking that the other side has suffered as much and even more in some cases.
Can you see what I mean,Simon???


I agree with you on most of what you say. However, the one thing I would say is that just because the Cyprus problem is complex, it does not mean the solution has to be complex. I believe that the more complex the solution, the less likely it will work. I also believe that no solution will work unless both sides are happy with it. It is no good the US trying to force the Annan Plan on GCs, because it will only end in disaster again; just like there is no point in GCs starting a campaign for enosis again, because that would only end in disaster (although I do believe that if Britain would have allowed this after WWI as they should have, we would not have the problems we have today).

However, today, the solution MUST be mutually acceptable. The only way it can be, is if it is based on fairness, equitable principles, human rights, proportionality and the rule of law. Don't you agree?? At the moment, I do not see any of the above in Cyprus. And not based on 'there is a limit on what we can demand because we lost a war.' Cypezokyli. A solution on this basis would also end in disaster. It is comments like this that make people think he is a TC. Can you blame them?
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Postby cypezokyli » Fri May 12, 2006 1:16 pm

1. NO TC has ever thought i was a tc. once again : prove it
but prove doesnot fall into our qualification does it?

i was thinking of replying about the proportionality blablabla , but then i thought...let him prove the above statement first.
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Postby rolo » Fri May 12, 2006 9:19 pm

serious question to gcs


what proportion of gcs are still tc haters, or how many would not want a tc as a neighbour?.......................you know what i mean, dont you


whats the general feel towards tcs in other words?
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Postby reeshahn » Fri May 12, 2006 9:35 pm

Oh please stop doing this. You are all like kindergarten children. Greeks say "Typical Turk" and Turks say "Typical Greek" We won't be able to move forward if we keep acting like that. Please grow up a little bit.
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Postby miltiades » Fri May 12, 2006 9:42 pm

Historically most conflicts between nations begun by one side or the other making demands on the other.
The conflicts would ultimately end when the human and financial costs reached such high levels
that even the most powerful of nations would not be inclined to continue in conflict and would
ultimately declare an end to hostilities , as was the case USA versus Vietnam , N.Korea etc.
Or indeed Iran v Irag , .
The exceptions of course are when a powerful nation , Turkey , enters into a conflict with a much
smaller and militarily weaker nation , Cyprus .Now , Turkey invaded Cyprus and told the
world that it did so legally since the Zurich agreement of 1960 gave her the right to do so.
It has always maintained that its sole purpose was to protect the Turkish Cypriots and save
them from being " annihilated" by the Greek Cypriots. We , the GCs have always disagreed with
this interpretation and have continued demanding the withdrawal of the Turkish troops ,
as well as the settlers. There is no power on earth that will force Turkey to withdraw its troops
from our land , those who kid them selves and talk about " KICK THEM OUT" need to grow up
and face realities. Yes , Europe will lend a hand , it will put some pressure also , but only
to advocate correctly that a solution must be found. IT WILL NOT KICK THE ARMY OUT …
So who can get the Turkish army out ? Well for as long as we continue with apportioning blame
sawing the seed s of disunity , having divided loyalties , Cyprus will remain a partitioned
Island for ever with 40 thousand foreign troops on its land.
Why not cultivate an atmosphere of mature co existence as Cypriots first and foremost
and see how the other side will respond.Years ago we lived in harmony , we interacted
in mixed villages , playing fields , cafenia , and in my case orphanage.
Alexander , tone it down a bit please , and as for Mrfromng , an apology
for his earlier outburst would be a gesture he will be proud of.
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Postby andri_cy » Fri May 12, 2006 10:11 pm

rolo wrote:serious question to gcs


what proportion of gcs are still tc haters, or how many would not want a tc as a neighbour?.......................you know what i mean, dont you


whats the general feel towards tcs in other words?


I wouldnt mind having a TC as a neighbor. I mean I would mind him as much as a GC if he were loud and obnoxious but that doesnt depend on race as much as personality. So if my neighbor was annoying I would dislike him no matter what his nationality was.
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Postby Simon » Sat May 13, 2006 12:32 am

OK

Sadik wrote

I'm glad that cypezokyli is a Turk and when he gets upset he shows his true colors.
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Postby cypezokyli » Sat May 13, 2006 12:49 am

so typical.... :roll:

read the whole post , of sadik. its not that difficult to realise that he is ironic.
second , and sadik can verify that. we had email contact and he also knows my real name who is part of my email address.

so any other "argument" that you have ?
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