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[nhowarth]

Hi Cyprusgrump,

I've just found out why you're so twitchy about Pissouri - I've just visited your website and see that you're selling property there:

"We have an intimate knowledge of Pissouri and are currently offering a range of new and 'resale' properties here."

Can't find any details of your CREAA Licence details - perhaps you could enlighten me and everyone else - or are you trading illegally?

Thanks,

[simonwjones]

This is getting exciting!

[nhowarth]

Hi Simon,

I'm not sure if you're aware of the situation. But at the back end of 1994, The Cyprus Government introduced legislation designed to outlaw cowboy estate agents.

There was an article published in the Cyprus Mail about it that you can view at: http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.ph ... &archive=1

You'll see towards the end of the article it says: "The Estate Agents association is on the lookout for cowboys, in particular retired Britons. Those who have taken on this job will find that they might end up in prison. The association of Estate Agents has set up committees to monitor advertising, internet and other activities referred to in the law."

I wrote a letter to the Cyprus Weekly in May 2005 about the problem, which they subsequently published. You can view that letter at: http://www.cyprus-property-buyers.com/p ... /let03.htm

The CREAA failed in a well-publicised court case that it brought against a large property marketing company.

The situation today is one of gobsmacked bemusement - or to put it in the words of one old grump "I don't believe it".

There's a couple of articles that are well worth reading on the Antonis Loizou web site called Cyprus Real Estate Agents, Advertisers & Tourist Agents and another called Decline of Quantity and Purchases by Foreigners

Both hit the some of the nails on the head.

Regards,

[cyprusgrump]

I've just found out why you're so twitchy about Pissouri - I've just visited your website and see that you're selling property there:

Well actually you are quite wrong!

My indignation at your posts and negative comments about Pissouri is as a result of having visited the place for the first time almost exactly four years ago, fallen in love with the village and its people and having lived here for just over three-and-a-half years.

I reiterate my comments – I have never in all my time here heard it called ‘The village of the damned’ and the photographs and comments on your website are definitely not representative of most of the village.

I actually know Daintre - we went scuba diving together some time ago – perhaps the ‘Pissouri Association’ is a recent venture but as I am personally not aware of anybody that is a member (apart from Daintre apparently) and I’m not sure how it can represent the views of the villagers. Clearly it doesn’t represent my views.

As for the property thing, you’ll be delighted to know that we’re not selling property here due to the new rules covering registered estate agents (although those rules don’t apply if you are large enough). We do offer free help and advice on our web site to people considering moving here though. Simon has actually purchased his property through Interlink.

Interestingly, the reason that we set the site up was due to the appalling treatment we received from a registered estate agent when we first came here. It was clear that they were willing to do absolutely anything to get us to sign for a property that didn’t meet our requirements at all. Being a registered estate agent is clearly not a guarantee that the service you will receive is honest or reliable.

[susanbunny]

I was told the other day there is going to be a marina at Mandria, makes you wonder, if it is just a ploy to sell property, you will be told what the person selling the property thinks you want to hear, in order to make up you mind for you.

Susanbunny

[nhowarth]

Hi cyprusgrump,

> you’ll be delighted to know that we’re not selling property here due to the new rules covering registered estate agents

I find that extremely difficult to believe - particularly as on your web site you have the following statements:

"We have an intimate knowledge of Pissouri and are currently offering a range of new and 'resale' properties here."

"We offer properties with both sea and mountain views (many with both!) in a wide range of sizes to suit every budget."

"Our selection of new homes and developments starting from CY£41,000. click the picture for more detailed information, availability and pricing."

Maybe I'm missing something, but it sure looks as if you're selling property - or is it just a cover for some other scam.

PS - It isn't a "new law" as you suggest - it was merely been strengthened to help remove the cowboys & other scum who prey on thye fears of property buyers.

[nhowarth]

Hi SB,

Long time no hear - trust you are keeping well.

> you will be told what the person selling the property thinks you want to hear.

Precisely - whether it's a marina at Mandria or the golf course at Tersefanou - it's in the interest of the developers to suggest that such developments are definitely going ahead.

[cyprusgrump]

I find that extremely difficult to believe - particularly as on your web site you have the following statements:

I find it amazing that you appear so obsessed with the detail of my web site yet ignore the blatant inaccuracies of your own! In fact, I’m sure everybody finds your ridiculous back peddling on this subject quite amusing.

However, one of us needs to be mature enough to bring this pointless discussion to a conclusion and it appears as though it will have to be me.

This is my last word on the subject that was originally raised.

FACT: I discovered Pissouri almost exactly four years ago and instantly fell in love with the village.

FACT: I have lived here permanently for over three years and in that time have never heard anybody in the village refer to it as ‘The Village of the damned’ as is claimed on your web site.

FACT: The village does not suffer from being built on unstable soil apart from the one tiny area of the village (highlighted on your website as being representative of the whole) where it is acknowledged that a number of properties where built on unstable land (over a covered stream I believe) and where the owners have lost their homes. The owners of these properties have been compensated for their loss and have re-built in Pissouri which does (IMHO) demonstrate their faith in the construction abilities of the builders here and the stability of the land.

I feel sorry for people like Simon that have invested in Pissouri only to have inaccurate descriptions of the village linked to a thread discussing the building of a marina there.

I also think it is a shame that you cannot just admit you’ve made a mistake on your web site, rectify the misleading pages and move on. Instead, you try and turn it into an argument about the legality or otherwise of my own website and activities about which you clearly have no knowledge.

Still, as I said this will be my last word on the subject although you are free to PM me if you need more information on my activities or other web sites that you perhaps would like to critique.

[simonwjones]

Thank you all for your feed back. If I knew it would end in World War 3 then I wouldn't of asked!

SO the verdict is there is a strong chance of a marina in Pissouri

[andri_cy]

There is a chance but is not set in stone it seems.