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What happened to the wall of shame?

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Postby MR-from-NG » Fri Apr 28, 2006 4:03 pm

go and look for yourself...


That would require my physical presence on a dangerous and hostile territory. NO THNKS.
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Postby twinkle » Fri Apr 28, 2006 4:04 pm

Grow up!
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Postby MR-from-NG » Fri Apr 28, 2006 4:05 pm

that's the difference. we have freedom of speech and expression here in Cyprus. Turkey rules with an iron fist!


What a load of crap!!
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Postby MR-from-NG » Fri Apr 28, 2006 4:28 pm

Grow up!


I am grown up and sensible. I would feel safer on the streets of the Bronx in New York holding a placard with a slogan "I HATE NIGGERS" than to visit a city that has a slogan and is the motto of its general public "A GOOD TURK IS A DEAD TURK".
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Postby Piratis » Fri Apr 28, 2006 4:51 pm

mrfromng wrote:
Not by some individual that after loosing half his family during the Turkish invasion went and wrote some message on a wall.


So its still there. Isn't it strange that not a single Greek felt it appropriate to get a brush and white-wash it. Well done to all those that are for reunification.

If I wrote on the walls of a Kyrenia building something like "F*** THE GC'S AND F*** REUNIFICATION" I would get a good hiding and it would be white-washed within minutes.

All you European Greeks should hang your heads in shame. You know what, I spit on any Turk that ever mentions reunification to me again.


I don't know if its their or not. What I said is that if such message exist on some wall somewhere it was put there by some individual.

On the other hand the Turkish government is telling us in the most clear and official way "F*** THE GC'S AND F*** REUNIFICATION" by placing the "trnc" flag that represents partition and ethnic cleansing, not on some wall somewhere, but by painting a whole mountain that half of our population is forced to look at every day.

Not only this symbol of ethnic cleansing and partition was not "white-washed within minutes" but it is well maintained by the Turkish occupation force.

Them, like you, are simply trying to spread hate among the people and they pray that their hateful actions will create more people that will go and write racist messages on walls, since that is what serves their aim for partition.

That would require my physical presence on a dangerous and hostile territory. NO THNKS.


This is only what the people that want to spread hate say.

Many thousands of TCs cross to the free areas every day, many of them to work or to receive the free health care that RoC provides to them.
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Postby miltiades » Fri Apr 28, 2006 5:24 pm

Mrfromng , I , along with all peace loving Cypriots , hope that common sense will prevail and gestures of hatred will be treated with the utmost contempt by us all , so the sign you refer to on a Nicosia wall is graffiti , perpetrators
not the entire Greek Cypriots but one or perhaps two misguided individuals .As far as the Turkish flag on the side of Pentadaktilos is concerned then you must surely accept that it was installed by Turkey for the sole objective of causing greivance to the Greek Cypriots . It serves no other purpose other than to cause annoyance not only to the 200000 plus refugees but also to all Cypriots. Personally I dislike all flags as well as exhibisionist gestures that civilised nations abstain from. You can see im certain that in order to march forward we need to re examine our attitudes and agree on the main stambling block to reaching a peaceful solution. The removal from Cyprus of the Turking occupation forces , and here we will always differ since you refer to the 400000 troops as interventionists , but all the free world including the United Nations agree that it is an occupation force.
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Postby MR-from-NG » Fri Apr 28, 2006 5:28 pm

Piratis,

That is a flag, how you interpret its presence is up to you. I and thousands of tourists look at it and I see a flag, right or wrong that's all they see a f****** flag. On the other hand a slogan like "A GOOD TURK IS A DEAD TURK" in a so called European city is shameful.

I wonder if there is a Greek with balls big enough and genuine desire for reunification that may one day white-wash? I bet my life on it there is not even one. You are what you are TURK HATERS, its even posted on you walls.
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Postby MR-from-NG » Fri Apr 28, 2006 5:39 pm

Miltiades,

I agree with everything you say and I believe there is hope for peace with people like you within the GC community. What is baffling is the ignorance of your politicians, if this wall is still painted with the mentioned slogan they all should hang their heads in shame. Do you believe a German, Itallian a Swede or any level headed tourist would read that sign and sympathise with you guys? My reaction would be "oh my God where the F*** am I?" These people are more barbaric than the so called barbaric Turks would be my immediate thoughts.

You are a sensible and mature person Miltiades, please you tell me if the message on the wall is in any way encouraging reunification.
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Postby Kikapu » Fri Apr 28, 2006 5:57 pm

mrfromng,

I agree with you 100% on the wall, but you must also admit that a flag is not just a flag when it becomes a "in your face" kind of flag.
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Postby Alexis » Fri Apr 28, 2006 5:59 pm

I wonder if there is a Greek with balls big enough and genuine desire for reunification that may one day white-wash? I bet my life on it there is not even one. You are what you are TURK HATERS, its even posted on you walls.


I'm not sure what exact point you are trying to make here mrfromng. I personally have not seen the piece of grafitti you mention but know for a fact that there is plenty of grafitti on the derelict buildings adjacent to the Green Line, so would not at all be surprised if this grafitti exists. I agree that perhaps the RoC as a gesture of goodwill ought to make attempts to clean up this grafitti, but how high on their priority list do you honestly think this might actually be given all the other things they 'ought' to be doing with regards re-unification and re-conciliation? You have obviously made up your mind that all GCs are Turk Haters yet you still maintain in your posts that no TCs harbour bad feelings about the GCs. Now how honestly do you think you portray yourself to GCs on this forum by sending posts like the above? I am simply asking you to think from the GC perspective how you come across. I have read enough of your other posts to know that deep down you are not really like that.
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