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Postby michalis5354 » Mon Apr 24, 2006 7:14 am

Be fair with yourself first and keep the flag comment to yourself after smacking us with the Turkish flag that we have to see all the time on Cypriot soil. That flag has to be the biggest in the world.


This is the reason I said that Papa should have come forward for a comprehensive plan in order for the Turksih flags and the Greek Flags not be on the island! Who is responsible for that ??? Of course Papa .

Papa rejected the last UN plan that has been on the table and he failed to provide an alternative plan to replace the last! Do you see my point?

UN statement : Neither side has shown a real determination to end the conflict
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Postby michalis5354 » Mon Apr 24, 2006 7:23 am

Holding innocent peoples property hostage this long, till you negotiate what you want is dead wrong no matter what kind of strifes went on.


Yes this can be addressed only at negotiations. If Papa does not go to negotiations how do you expect a resolution?
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Postby growuptcs » Mon Apr 24, 2006 7:41 am

So your saying then that it is right to hold innocent peoples property hostage that been living there for hundreds of years ok then?Before deal or no deal?How are you going to make a deal with our belongings? Remember, we never took yours. I know that you see the light to my side, your just willing to talk right through it though.
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Postby michalis5354 » Mon Apr 24, 2006 7:54 am

So what alternative do you propose.? If Turkish troops leave tomorow will the independence of the republic be established?
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Apr 24, 2006 9:50 am

growuptcs wrote:So your saying then that it is right to hold innocent peoples property hostage that been living there for hundreds of years ok then?Before deal or no deal?How are you going to make a deal with our belongings? Remember, we never took yours. I know that you see the light to my side, your just willing to talk right through it though.


Aren't you being very one sided here when you consider that the GCs have held hostage the "RoC" (recognition), emabargos, the TCs economic developement for the past 46 years. Its all a matter of balance, if we want to resolve anything should we meeting regularly?
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Postby michalis5354 » Mon Apr 24, 2006 9:54 am

The GC side has accused the Turkish side with intrangigence for the last years and now they are more intragigence themselves than ever! Irony or hypocricy?
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Apr 24, 2006 10:24 am

Maybe they were hiding behind the Denktas senior stance, one that element had been removed their real motives were revealed to the world. If the "RoC" considers themselves a true EU country they should address their own issues by creating and encouraging dialogue and not use old style methods of really supporting the status quo in order to maintain their current positions. Papadop did give away a little of his real thoughts when he said I cannot take over a "Republic" and handover a state, this appears to be very true and with this mentality we cannot expect him to make any moves that would result in the south turning into a GC state in a united Cyprus.
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Postby michalis5354 » Mon Apr 24, 2006 1:26 pm

No anwer ! Silence! hmmmmmm
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Postby growuptcs » Mon Apr 24, 2006 3:03 pm

Regardless of all the poltical bullsh*t that your used to saying over and over till you turn blue, fact is if you didn't want the EU, you would of sat idle with our properties forever. It's hard to deal with people that are used to illegalities. It's like dealing with a convict and expecting everything to go smooth, when they been dealing under their own terms all their lives, not the right terms. So Cyprus' situation, everyone else doesnt want to upset the convict, so they stay out or dont speak up if it doesnt involve them. We're all on our own in this world, but only we have to deal with the Turks who insist on racial illegalities. You'll never understand what that is like.Never.
The tension that is built up after 32 years is Turkeys fault why its been dragging this long. When I have a problem in my life, I have to get rid of that problem right away to move on with a clear head. Some people choose to deal with a problem by ignoring it, and thinking its not going to get worse. So reversing the tables and saying today its the GC's fault for the Cyprus problem, just remember how it got to this point before you only blame us and our attitudes.
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Postby michalis5354 » Mon Apr 24, 2006 3:29 pm

Since I personally asked so many questions but I never got an answer back I would nt expected this time!

Cyprus issue involves human suffering and it is time to end this suffering from both Sides! My opinion is that Papadopoulos should have been the first to sit down with Talat to discuss the prospects of the Cyprus issue and propose ways to move things forward!

When I have a problem in my life, I have to get rid of that problem right away to move on with a clear head


Exactly. I could not agree with you more here! :D

And I ask What are they both doing? Do they expect from the solution to come from the sky?
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