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[miltiades]

Pantheman grow up , you have been contributing to this forum much longer than i have.Go to the trouble of reading my posts in relation to Turkish Invaders , Turkish troops out of Cyprus , my NO vote at the Anna plan , my comments corncerning the Turkish flag on pentadaktilos , after you have done that please have the curtecy to apologise for confusing those remarks as that of a Turkish Cypriot. No Sir those remarks were of a TRUE PATRIOT A GENUINE CYPRIOT who you accused earlier of being eager to accommodate Mr Bushes genitals in his mouth. That coming from a young man , directed at a 60 year old, Im certain you are no more than 40 or nearby is , ANTROPI Kirie , so you want me to climb down to a level closer to yours , well I bloody well wont , I respect my land and my people , and I also fought for my land and my people by choice not conscription.
Your apology Sir is due.

[saravakos]

Panthema , i will not dissassociate my self from something with which i have never been associated with. you are in full compliance with the despicable characters that you mentioned , you are Sir a disgrace and an affront to every civilised concept of decent behaviour , if you allign yourself with murderers who bring death and distraction at a funeral ? at a wedding ? in a market place place , killing their own peoplle of the same ethnicity and faith.They are sick in the head and Im afraid so are you.

forgive me, but has the USA not done all this themselves either directly or indirectly in a number of countries??

i dont condone anything terrorist but lets not be blinkered to what the good old USA and CIA have been up to since WW2.

[pantheman]

miltiades

I apologize to you, i take back those comments.

Panthenman

[miltiades]

Pantheman
I fully accept your apology and praise your wisdom in so doing .I too apologise for the use of harsh words against your person .
Thank you Sir

[dixi]

Dixi,

Only a Republican can make the statements that you made.

You're wrong about that. Obviously, the sarcasm was missed.

[Kikapu]

Dixi,

Only a Republican can make the statements that you made.

You're wrong about that. Obviously, the sarcasm was missed.

Dixi,
Sorry, I did miss the sarcasm.

[kodo]

Well, this has been an interesting read. I lived in the USA some 15 years and although I disagree with many of the USA's actions and policies, particularly those of the Bush administration's, I developed a deep and great respect and admiration for the nation and its people. It pains me when I hear such hatred of the USA. It is the kind of hatred and loathing that compelled Middle Easterners to celebrate in the streets when thousands of people were killed 9/11 as they began their workday. It is the kind of hatred that comes not from individual thinking but is instilled into young minds early.

Has it is been stated in this thread, the concern over Iran is the fanaticism displayed its president and his continued stated intent of harm to his neighbours. It is very likely that if unchecked, Iran will have a nuclear weapon capable of reaching Isreal within three to five years. Think about that. Cyprus is about 350km due north of Tel Aviv. That is not a great distance. Iran is offering its technology to Sudan! Why? for peaceful purposes? PLEASE. Sudan is one of the most unstable countries there is. Despite the imcompetencies of Bush and Donald Rumsfeld's military impotency, the USA is one of the very few countries who can deal with the matter and will act. Regardless of what anyone thinks or says about the USA, you have to admit that fear is something the US rarely displays.

Anyway, this is pretty intense for my first post but I am happy to be a part of the forum. I have respect for the different viewpoints, which is something I developed while living in the US.

[miltiades]

First class contribution kodo , keep it up ! The western world is not perfect by any stretch of the imagination
but what is the alternative . 9/11 was indeed the day the sleeping giant was awaken . America will act ,and we should be more than grateful that there is a power in the world that is prepared to send its men and women to defend the interests of the free world. They are loathed by many in Cyprus and understandably so in view of its support of Turkey, but its for us Cypriots to keep lobbying and instead of hatred we protest , as our fellow Cypriots in the States do.Through out history super powers always supported their interests first and helped those that their interests were best served , in this instance 70 million Turks rather than less than 1 million GCs But we must keep on , we must find the solution that will unite a demilitarised Cyprus , we must demand fron Europe and the US their contribution to solving the Cyprus problem , likewise we must demand of our fellow Cypriots to start building that bridge that will take us to the road of peace for our beloved Cyprus.Our Turkish Cypriot compatriots , contrary , to popular belief have the same aspirations that we Greeks have , read post by MRFROMGN , he states his beleif that 99.9% of the Turkish Cypriots consider themselves Cypriot first then Turkish. It is so encouraging to know that they also love our Cyprus and the would Im certain join me in saying LONG LIVE THE PARADISE ISLAND OF CYPRUS. 3 cheers for cyprus

[Kikapu]

Kodo,

As a Cypriot/British/American I too love America. It is a great country. It's too bad we elect the wrong people to office from time to time, and some times even for second term! Democracy means that our government works for us not the other way around. Democracy means that our government is scares from us, not the other way around. Do you see Bush working for us (citizens) or being afraid from us (citizens ). He has used the American "good will" for his own personal gains by invading Iraq unilateraly, first time in Americans' history that we have done that, so that he can be a "War President" to be remembered in history. Well he has got his wish, only he'll be remembered very negatively ( if there's such a word ). Now that his poll numbers are in the rubbish bin, he want to stir it up again, and his Republican supporters egg him on to go and kick some ass. These people are anti-America and all that she stands for.

Funny you should bring up Israel. Israel is not the 51st state of USA. They are armed to the teeth thanks to the USA, including Nukes, so they can defend themselves if they wish to. You want to talk about balance of power in the region, the scale tips way too much towards Israel. America loves to use Israel as a reason everytime we want to kick some ass in the region, because politically it pays off at home to get the Jewish vote ( for both parties )

You said " you have to admit that fear is something the US rarely displays". Well, thats because we always go and destroy someone elses country. I use to think Americans displayed a lot of courage until 9/11, then I saw just how scared Americans became. The more they were reminded of that terrible day the more they ran to Bush for protection, until Katrina hit, then the truth came out that they were not protected. If USA did not have a strong military, even Castro could have walked into USA.

You seem to have the same fear Bush managed to inflict on the Americans, by yet another threat coming from Iran, so we need to kick more ass. I just wish all those who want to go to war would be the first ones to volunteer to go to the front lines, or perhaps they are " displaying fear".

Do not forget, that the West has committed more crime against humanity than any Middle Eastern country in the last 100 years. I think you're afraid from the wrong people.

[miltiades]

Kikapu , the West has given you the right to express what ever views you have either political or religious , with out the fear of repercussions. To blow yourself up intentionally , in a restaurant , in a mosque , on a bus , in a train station , or flying aircraft full of innocent people and crushing into the towers killing thousands of more innocent people is not a western thing. It is a barbaric act by perverted fanatics mostly from the Middle East . To allow a situation where a Fanatical regime obtains Nuclear weapons is a tragedy for the entire world. They , with their perverted fanatical outlook , would not even stop to think that the minute they embarked on a nuclear adventure they were signing the total annihilation of their nation . It is better to stop a child from running into the road with eyes shut by a hand smack rather than smack from a juggernaut . Turkey has a lot to thank K. Attartouk
for his vision to see Turkey exist side by side with the Western world.