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[pantheman]

miltiades

I answer you post as follows :

I am indeed interested to what happens to cyprus, but unlike you i am not prepared to sell her down the sh*t hole for a small return because it suits me.

Yes i do hate the americans, who doesn't, they caused the whole problem in the first place.

How dare you rubbish me, you nothing about me, my losses or my political views, you judged me on a single post and you have the cheek to say I'm not a patriot. Damn, its people like yourself you coward who want you give up cyprus because you are too sh*tting scared to say it as it is. So do us all a favour go and BJ your american friends because thats all they are after.

Have a nice bloody day to you too buddy. Is that american enough for you. Maybe you should change your name to Monica lewinski koumbare.

[miltiades]

Neither do you know anything about me , but I tell you I lived through 1955- 1961.
Im sick to death with Cypriots like you who instead of using their brain to think about the future of Cyprus spend their time attacking not only America but also the Western world.I bet you are a communist who still thinks that Russia will one day come to Cyprus and liberate us. As for being a coward and wanting to give Cyprus up ???
where the hell did you get that from. I love Cyprus , and comments like yours are not only offensive
but unintelligent. Give Americans a BJ ??? Is this the limit of your political intelligence ? Can I just say that I respect your right to express what ever takes your fancy , but can you honestly believe that your approach rather than mine will be constructive to bring about a settlement to our country. Finally let me say that it is time that we put the interests of our country above all else-"YPER PANTON OLON TO SIMFERO TO LAOU MAS " and that includes trying to change the image the US has on Cyprus ie "The Cuba of the Meditteranian " For your information the majority of people the world over are pro-American .
Long live Cyprus Long live the Western world that Cyprus IS PART OF.

[pantheman]

miltiades

Lets just agree to disagree, there is nothing more to be said or gained here. You have your views I have my own.

I rest my case.

Pantheman.

P.S. I am not a communist at all, and i don't expect russia to save us. (they have their own problems), we need to save ourselves before we look to anyone else.

[Kikapu]

All of you have made an accurate statement about America whether you knew it or not, although some were more accurate than others. I spent 25 years in the States and followed their politics and foreign policies closely. America is a great nation with its' citizens in time of peace, but in time of war, America looses its' greatness in a hurry. When America needs something from another nation that they have ignored previously, during in time of war, they use the moto " the enemy of my enemy, is my friend".

India and Pakistan were both under US sanctions over their development of Nuclear weapons, but after 9/11 when US wanted to attack Afganistan, they needed access, so Pakistan become a friend. They did not want to upset India which may cause friction between Pakistan, gave them a free pass also. It's not uncommon for USA to go to "bed" with the "enemy", if they can get what they want, but don't expect for the "honeymoon" to last very long, because soon or later, the tables will turn again and the "enemy of my enemy, is my friend" will resurface, and this time you will be the "enemy.

I can't say I blame the Iranians if they wanted to develop the "bomb". Does anyone really think USA would be in Iraq today, if they had the "bomb". Look how many lives would have been saved, and the $$ cost and human misery, if US could not have attacked Iraq. This notion that some countries could not be trusted with the "bomb"is a weak argument. Do you really think they could threaten other nations with few dozen Nukes, when they will be wiped off by thousans of Nukes from the US and others. For decades we did not trust the Soviets, the "evil empire". What ever happened to all those warnings. Man may be a "fool" to develope these weapons, but not "stupid" to use them AGAIN.

The only time the Cyprus issue came up in the USA to my knowledge to try and resolve the problem was by Clinton just before he got caught having a BJ in the Oval office, and then the whole thing was dropped faster than his pants, when Monica came to visit him.!! I don't think Cyprus is on anyones "radar screen" to harm her or help her. If the Cypriots wont help themselves, than no one else will either.

[andri_cy]

But to be the devil's advocate, do we really know about the human misery Saddam Hussein cost his people? Maybe they would rather die to the americans than live under him. Gross choice but....

[Kikapu]

andri_cy,

We were suppose to free them from Saddams tortures as a bi-product of the main objection for the invasion, instead we just replaced him with dozens others from different groups including the USA. Nothing has changed for the people on the ground ( or under ground ). The only difference is, by the time all is said and done, it will have cost the USA over $$ ONE TRILLION DOLLARS $$ over 10 years, not to mention loss of US soldiers. As long as American Corporations are turning a profit on the war, why worry about those who got killed...after all, they were going to die anyway under Saddam. Why not make a $ buck $ or two same time.

[dixi]

miltiades

Yes i do hate the americans, who doesn't, they caused the whole problem in the first place.

Of course the Americans caused the whole problem. Americans cause all problems, past and present, and will cause all future problems.

Americans caused Eve to eat the apple.

Americans forced Brutus to kill Caesar.

Americans were driving Pontius to crucify Jesus.

Americans were behind the conquest of Cyprus by the Ottoman Empire.

Americans forced the British to annex the island.

And Americans are plotting the downfall of Cyprus as we speak!

[Kikapu]

Dixi,

Only a Republican can make the statements that you made.

[Bananiot]

Zac Zylar once said that anti americanism is the socialism of the jerks. But, Miltiades, you should understand that not only communists are anti american in Cyprus. Equally anti american are the axtreme right but of course, they would soon become pro american if Bush decides to bomb Ankara (a nuke would be better, you do realise).

[saravakos]

But to be the devil's advocate, do we really know about the human misery Saddam Hussein cost his people? Maybe they would rather die to the americans than live under him. Gross choice but....

i know this may sound harsh, but is it our problem what happens in his own country?

they didnt give a shit who he was killin when they were buddies before the 1st Gulf War. and lets not be blinded into thinking the US andBritain invaded to 'liberate' Iraq...yeah okkkkk gimme a break!!

OIL is the only reason they are there...have a think of how many hundreds and thousands of innocents have lost their lives due to the meddling of the CIA and US Government in overthrowing democratically elected Governments and installing puppets just so they do as their told.

it makes me sick...i'd rather Cyprus and Greece keep their distance and limit their risk of attack by any terrorist