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[cypezokyli]

there is no exciting proposal from my side , besides we accept some troops staying, and after a certain period of time that we have proven to each other that we dont have any secret plans of kicking each other out , the troops may leave us for good.

[michalis5354]

Perhaps the Cypriot government should consider offering Turkey a military base on Cyprus in return for withdrawing its army of occupation. This base would be on sovereign Cypriot soil, and abide by Cypriot law. A rent would be payable to the Cypriot government. The composition of the military presence and their activities would have to receive the approval of the Cypriot government.

Its good to propose something to end the conflict rather than to propose nothing!This is not a bad idea at all.The solution you have proposed offering to the republic of Cyprus financial benefits in perpetuity which is something positive. Good Idea!

Turkey can pull her troops out if and when the people of Cyprus can prove to be able to live together. Once the troops leave and if the s*** hits the fan again, there won't be a possibilty to intervene on the behalf of the Turks, since Cyprus now being in the EU club and the "attack one, attack all rule". This may give the hardliners new ideas agains the Turks, and the EU will see this as an internal affair. Build the trust and the peace will follow.

Agree with this as well. If both parties agree to a mutual acceptable solution then Turkey would have less reasons to be on the island.Papa and Talat should have been more constructive on their approach. At the moment for some reasons they are not! Build trust , Be fair to each other , and the solution will come!


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[michalis5354]

KALAHARI, its been 32 years now, how long should refugees have to wait for the turkish army to withdraw from cyprus ?

Ask Papa to come to the negotiating table. How can the Turkish troops go home when Papa is not even trying to! By magic?

[michalis5354]

And then you come here to accuse only the Turkish side.

Be fair to yourslef first and to the rest of the world afterwards!

[growuptcs]

For all the Pap haters out there, the man is only trying to find a guidline of rules that exist everywhere in democratic countries. The way Turkey wants watered down guidlines, its the same as allowing a Muslim man legally having 2 or more wives. Democratic countries don't allow either one in their own countries, but Turkey is justifying it to the rest of the EU that it can work out. If you want to call it a religious thing, so be it. I just can't respect it and neither will anyone in the EU. Maybe the EU should come forward and tell it how it is to get in, or they're just waiting to see if Turkey changes its tune.

[miltiades]

Very nicely put Kifeas , it is an undisputable fact that personal safety in Cyprus ranks among the highest in the civilised world.Our sense of fairness , our love of family values, our tolerance levels coupled with barrel loads of hospitality -Such attributes are most certainly shared by T/Cs -make Cyprus the perfect place to bring up a family, retire , have fan or what ever else one requires. Let Turkey understand that it needs Europe far more than the other way around , and keeping 40000 troops on Cypriot soil under the pretext of safeguarding the interests of T/Cs , will most certainly not speed up entry into the EU , that Turkey so much needs for the benefit of its people.As far as having a Turkish military base in Cyprus well I thing the Zurich aggreement of 1959 gave both Turkey and Greece a limited presence in Cyprus.

[michalis5354]

Growup you called me a papa hater but this is not the case. What I am doing is a constructive Critisism to move things forward. Why is Papa beyond critism.? A proportion of my salary goes to his monthly income and you tell me not to critisise him?

[michalis5354]

the man is only trying to find a guidline of rules that exist everywhere in democratic countries

Nothing wrong with that! Why does not ask the UN to start a new round of talks and ask these principles to be adopted in a new plan? Or even go and meet Talat FACE to FACE and listen to his concerns and ask for a fairer plan to replace the last?

What I want to see are ACTIONS. ONLY ACTIONS make a GREAT LEADER!

[growuptcs]

32 years of hearing NO and Turkey wouldn't even budge with Dektash. Changing TC leadership is good enough for him to spill out his plan to ones who can still say "NO" in the end if they dont like what other democratic countries agree to? When you deal with difficult people, you have no choice but to be difficult back. So you want him to lie down on the floor on his back and say go ahead walk all over me, just because Turkey is trying to get in the EU. Turkey just has to follow the rest of democratic norms without asking to bend any rules, then he'll sit down I'm sure.
Till then its like Evander Holyfield stepping in the ring to go up against Mike Tyson, and expecting Mike to fight fair again. What if Evander doesn't want to fight him because there isn't 3 referees in the ring. Should the fight go on without Evanders rules? I dont think so.

[michalis5354]

You did not answer to my above questions? These are very simple questions to move things forward otherwise the suffering will continue for another 30 years to come.!