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How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby malaka » Tue May 16, 2006 8:37 am

Viewpoint wrote:WTF.....are you on about.



You know what I am on about and everyone else in this forum.

Dont play stupid when it suits you
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Postby malaka » Tue May 16, 2006 8:50 am

kalahari wrote:
Kalahari you have driven way off the track.
Read my post again.
All GC & TC legall owners south/ north get their properties back
If a greek built on a TC piece of land he has done that illegally he loses it same goes around for if a Turk done the same.

If a GC lives in TC house vice versa they both get out and the legall owner
gets his house back.
Why are you jumping up and down all of sudden backing TC and calling GC repossessors

I still do not get it TURKEY IS ILLEGALLY OCCUPING CYPRUS THE WHOLE WORLD KNOWS IT AND YET YOU SUPPORT THAT ??????


Malaka my friend, I am in complete agreement with you that Turkey is illegally occupying Cyprus. If you read any of my posts you'll know that to be the case (and I know you have, my friend).

What I am saying in the previous post is this: your scenario will never happen (fact), could never happen (fact), and (in my opinion) should never happen. It would be, literally, impossible to happen, and the upheaval, grief, bloodshed and hatred it would generate would be so totally counter-productive that the island would probably be plunged into an even greater civil war than before.

All so that you can move back from Oz? Hell, you can do that now if you really want to. Nobody would stop you.

Unless it is, after all, just the compensation you're interested in?


So what you are saying everybody should accept what happenned and let Turkey get away with illegally occuping a country and move on.

You a very wrong I can not move back if I want because somebody is living in my house illegally and is rubbing in it my face that I can not do anything about it.
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Postby Strahd » Tue May 16, 2006 8:51 am

kalahari wrote:
Those properties are still there waiting for TCs and they were not given to foreigners or to GCs (only for temporary use).


Are you seriuously telling me that all the TC properties south of the border are still sitting unoccupied as they were left in 1974? Apart from a few that will be willingly returned?

Reality check please! And, I think, a new topic...


Yes TC houses have been given to refugees but without titles and the refugees that live in them have no right to do any changes on the houses.

In addition refugee housing was built on TC land, however these houses can be brought down and land be returned to legal TC owners when the refugees get their properties back.

Third some TC land in conjuction with GC land has been taken by the state for roads, bridges, hospitals etc. This land will be compensated as it happens in all civilised countries.

No TC land has been sold, or titles given to GC refugees.
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue May 16, 2006 9:59 am

Look to your courts a case was tried recently where TCs land was sold.
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Postby Piratis » Tue May 16, 2006 1:19 pm

What does "moderator" mean, exactly? Oh, and while you've got the dictionary out, look up "irony". And then read my post again, only this time take off those blood-red tinted glasses.

Kiss kiss.


Kalahari, it is obvious that you are clueless regarding the Cyprus Problem. So drop the "know it all" attitude of yours because you sound ridiculous. Listen more, talk less. Just an advice.

I am telling you this because I am sure you have a desire to learn so I still didn't put you in the same category like GCG and some others. So make yourself a favor and show some level.
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Postby GreekCypriotGurl_UK » Tue May 16, 2006 1:54 pm

kalahari i hope you never move to Cyprus like you said i would hate to think of people like you there who justify the illegal Occupation of Cyprus by turkey and you think Cyprus should have a turkish military bases there why dont you go to move to Turkey kalahari
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Postby MR-from-NG » Tue May 16, 2006 2:18 pm

Kalahari,

You are not singing from the same hymn sheet as our Greek friends, therefore you are classed as a Turkish appeaser. :lol: :lol:
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Postby kalahari » Tue May 16, 2006 4:00 pm

Gosh, that told me.

Malaka. I still unfortunately do not know your story, so I am just guessing as to your situation, but having made a new home in Oz I'm guessing you maust be relatively happy there. And again, no I am not saying that we should let Turkey get away with invading Cyprus. I have never said this. I do however think that squabbling over potentially 200,000 individually property cases is not the way forward.

Strahd. This is fascinating and also incredible – are you really telling me that entire villages are laying vacant, like ghost towns, untouched by human hand (or vandal's) and have been since 1974? I'm not saying I don't believe you, but I am saying I find it very difficiult to believe, given the vitriol that is on display on this forum on a daily basis. Maybe the people that have remained on Cyprus are of a far more even temper.

Piratis The know-it-all attitude is supposed to sound ridiculous. Again, look up "irony". I am trying to bring a little light heartedness into this bleak, black subject. I openly admit that I am clueless about the Cyprus subject – that's why I'm here: to learn! But so many people just throw abuse at me rather than spend time educating me.

As I have sad before, this is cyprus-forum, not cyprus-abuse-a-foreigner.

As for a desire to learn, man am I eager to learn – I intend to move my family to Cyprus, and I want to be sure that I'm not taking them to a land full of "each-other" haters.

My opinion of everybody on this forum is actually pretty high – as evidenced by my returning every day.

GCG: Now I said I wouldn't talk to you anymore, but as you have asked a proper question without being rude I will on this occasion. I do not want to move to Turkey because their government has a terrible human rights record and are prone to invading countries illegally. Now I love the Turkish people, they are among the friendliest and most hospitable I have ever met. I would put them on a level with my other favourite race of people, the Greeks. But my family and I cannot speak more than a smattering of Greek words, and we want to move to a cosmopolitan city with an outlook on the world at large. I think that Limassol would suit us just fine, and I have heard many good things about the Cyprus people too. So we're coming to Cyprus in July to check things out for ourselves.

But why so keen to keep me in the UK? Why don't you move back to Cyprus yourself? I am really interested too know! malaka is starting to talk to the forum a bit more now, why don't you tell us more about yourself too? Please?

Finally, my style can be a little bit flamboyant. I apologise if it offends. But I am hear to learn and where I can educate, as we all are.

Love, Kal
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Postby malaka » Thu May 18, 2006 2:03 am

Kalahari,

In my opininon if you want to know what a country is like go there and experience it for yourself do not resort to a forum that at the end of the day means absolutelly nothing You have a hand full of people talking on this forum that does not refleck all the people. It does not matter what I think you think or anyone else for that matter.

Seriously if anyone thinks that what thay say or do in this site is going to make a difference then I suggest they wake up and smeel the coffee.

All people seem to do in this site is go around & around. for example you see posts like
IS GREECE AT FAULT or TURKEY or UK or USA
Who cares if they were or not is that going to solve anything.

You see someone is going to defend Greece and someone is going to defend Turkey you did this you did that and from there they will always argue just like I did with mrfromng then tempers flew and look at what happenned



THERE WILL NEVER BE A SOLUTION for the reasons above.

THE LAST 32 YEARS IS PROOF ENOUGH
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Postby andri_cy » Thu May 18, 2006 2:09 am

kalahari wrote:Gosh, that told me.

Malaka. I still unfortunately do not know your story, so I am just guessing as to your situation, but having made a new home in Oz I'm guessing you maust be relatively happy there. And again, no I am not saying that we should let Turkey get away with invading Cyprus. I have never said this. I do however think that squabbling over potentially 200,000 individually property cases is not the way forward.

Strahd. This is fascinating and also incredible – are you really telling me that entire villages are laying vacant, like ghost towns, untouched by human hand (or vandal's) and have been since 1974? I'm not saying I don't believe you, but I am saying I find it very difficiult to believe, given the vitriol that is on display on this forum on a daily basis. Maybe the people that have remained on Cyprus are of a far more even temper.

Piratis The know-it-all attitude is supposed to sound ridiculous. Again, look up "irony". I am trying to bring a little light heartedness into this bleak, black subject. I openly admit that I am clueless about the Cyprus subject – that's why I'm here: to learn! But so many people just throw abuse at me rather than spend time educating me.

As I have sad before, this is cyprus-forum, not cyprus-abuse-a-foreigner.

As for a desire to learn, man am I eager to learn – I intend to move my family to Cyprus, and I want to be sure that I'm not taking them to a land full of "each-other" haters.

My opinion of everybody on this forum is actually pretty high – as evidenced by my returning every day.

GCG: Now I said I wouldn't talk to you anymore, but as you have asked a proper question without being rude I will on this occasion. I do not want to move to Turkey because their government has a terrible human rights record and are prone to invading countries illegally. Now I love the Turkish people, they are among the friendliest and most hospitable I have ever met. I would put them on a level with my other favourite race of people, the Greeks. But my family and I cannot speak more than a smattering of Greek words, and we want to move to a cosmopolitan city with an outlook on the world at large. I think that Limassol would suit us just fine, and I have heard many good things about the Cyprus people too. So we're coming to Cyprus in July to check things out for ourselves.

But why so keen to keep me in the UK? Why don't you move back to Cyprus yourself? I am really interested too know! malaka is starting to talk to the forum a bit more now, why don't you tell us more about yourself too? Please?

Finally, my style can be a little bit flamboyant. I apologise if it offends. But I am hear to learn and where I can educate, as we all are.

Love, Kal



No one said they are vacant. Like he said over and over, they are being used by GC refugees, as loaners, but they do not belong to them. No one said anything about vacant towns. Just vacant TC lots.
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