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[Kifeas]

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Bravo miltiades...what MRFROMNG says is correct about Turkish Cypriots but the only reason they feel they cannot commit to union with the south is trust, they cannot break away from their mother because the people they want to unite with do not give them the confidence to do so and those people are the Greek Cypriots

viewpoint the turkish Cypriots are lying and making excuses they dont want union the only union they want is for N Cyprus to be a union with turkey they are backstabbers and liars they will never want greek refugess to get there homes back they want there turkish brothers the illegal settlers to stay in greek refugees homes i have not seen any turkish Cypriot protest for the illegal settlers to leave and give back the homes to greek cypriots have you ? all this they cant trust us nonesence is rubbish lets say for example Turkey withdrew its military from Cyprus today and the illegal settlers left and the turkish Cypriots got there homes back and so did greek refugees they would be given equal rights becasue Cyprus is part of the EU now the turkish Cypriots know this but they still make excuses that they cant trust greek Cypriots well i Dont trust them

GCG_uk, although there is evidently a substantial part of the T/Cs who think, preach and act precisely in the way you have described above, there is also an equally substantial part of them that doesn't think in this way. Therefore, it is not fair to put all of them in the same basket, as you seem to always be doing in your posts. It is not fair above all for those T/Cs that give a struggle in the north to change this logic.

[miltiades]

mrfromng , let me be the first to congradulate you on an excellent posting re : Settlers predicament in Cyprus.
The difference beetween Cypriots and settlets is there for us all to see. As you rightly say these people were promised a new life and a bright future in Cyprus , most I should imagine eminated from the poorest sector .
Your suggestion of financial aid to these impoversihed people-EUROPE SHOULD CONSIDER THIS - with rehousing perhaps in Turkey , should a solution demand this option , is admirable and you have my respect for this suggestion. That indicates to me also that you would support a solution where the dispossesed Greek and Turkish Cypriots would be given the right of regaining what was rightfully theirs prior to the invasion. Im certain that with time an acceptable solution will emerge.

[Kifeas]

mrfromng , let me be the first to congradulate you on an excellent posting re : Settlers predicament in Cyprus.
The difference beetween Cypriots and settlets is there for us all to see. As you rightly say these people were promised a new life and a bright future in Cyprus , most I should imagine eminated from the poorest sector .
Your suggestion of financial aid to these impoversihed people-EUROPE SHOULD CONSIDER THIS - with rehousing perhaps in Turkey , should a solution demand this option , is admirable and you have my respect for this suggestion. That indicates to me also that you would support a solution where the dispossesed Greek and Turkish Cypriots would be given the right of regaining what was rightfully theirs prior to the invasion. Im certain that with time an acceptable solution will emerge.

I do not personally object Europe helping (financing) these people to be repatriated back to Turkey, but seriously speaking, it only takes Turkey to just buy tanks less for her already huge arsenal so that the money is found by her to help her own people that she allowed them to illegally move and settle in Cyprus.

[Viewpoint]

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Bravo miltiades...what MRFROMNG says is correct about Turkish Cypriots but the only reason they feel they cannot commit to union with the south is trust, they cannot break away from their mother because the people they want to unite with do not give them the confidence to do so and those people are the Greek Cypriots

viewpoint the turkish Cypriots are lying and making excuses they dont want union the only union they want is for N Cyprus to be a union with turkey they are backstabbers and liars they will never want greek refugess to get there homes back they want there turkish brothers the illegal settlers to stay in greek refugees homes i have not seen any turkish Cypriot protest for the illegal settlers to leave and give back the homes to greek cypriots have you ? all this they cant trust us nonesence is rubbish lets say for example Turkey withdrew its military from Cyprus today and the illegal settlers left and the turkish Cypriots got there homes back and so did greek refugees they would be given equal rights becasue Cyprus is part of the EU now the turkish Cypriots know this but they still make excuses that they cant trust greek Cypriots well i Dont trust them

You should really do some research GCG, in 2004 we said yes to 90.000 GC refugees returning to their homes.

If GCs were able to overcome the lack of trust the TC community feels towards them, GCs would in turn be able to resolve many of the issues they face today.

[Hiyar herif]

for those who didn't know - turks have been in cyprus since 1541

[miltiades]

Kifeas , goodmorning to you Sir , I have just read two excellent posts from bananiot and kodo , I very much hope that more Cypriots will come forward with encouraging posts and a torch in hand ready to flick on for a united peaceful Cyprus .mrfromng's comments on the settlers , such remarks I hear often in the UK from Turkish Cypriots so I wasnt taken aback by his remarks, are very consrtuctive . I posted earlier that the only power that will send Turkish troops back to Turkey is the TURKISH CYPRIOTS. America , Brittain , even Europe will not force the army out. We can leave Greece out of the equation .Lets continue contractive dialoque with our compatriots on how best to unite our island remembering that a SOLUTION IS INEVITABLE PARTITION IS NOT.

[michalis5354]

I posted earlier that the only power that will send Turkish troops back to Turkey is the TURKISH CYPRIOTS

This is what I have been telling many times here and ask Papa to go and meet Talat face to Face to dicuss the prospects of the Cyprus issue and to see how the relationship of the two comunities on the island be improved. The Cyprus issue also involves the relationship of the 2 communities on the island and not only Turkey. What does it cost him to meet him and devise ways to move things forward to end or at least eliminate the sufffering of their people ?

[miltiades]

Good morning Michalis , I agree with you on that . Mr Papadopulos will Im certain meet Mr Talat in due course .Im sure that the President of Cyprus as well as the Turkish community leader are wise enough to surround them selves with the necessary political expertise in the areas that impartiality could be an asset , UN or Europe for instance could be instrumental . I do not have any political preferences in Cyprus , though I must say I do not have much time for communist ideology since it is now obvious to all that this ideology is now dead and buried in the Soviet Union and suffering from an incurable decease in China . As far as our Governments are concerned , past and present , I must admit that I was astounded when first I installed a Satellite to receive CYBC , at how intelligent astute and politically mature they all came across. Joining this forum and meeting people like you , bananiot , mrfrmng , kifeas , our new friend kodos , and many more has enhanced my perspective of Cypriots a great deal.

[cypezokyli]

mitliades for which goeverment are you reffering to when you say "politically mature" ?
with all the respect , did you see any political duel on tv ?
i mean if : anastasiadis vs hristofias vs kleanthous is called intelligence and maturity we should start redefining these words

on a serious note , bc we should not forget our great "victory" a couple of months ago - what happened to those committees and CBMs ? do they work day and night for the good of cyprus ?

[miltiades]

cypezokyli , as I mentioned earlier I do not have any political affiliations in Cyprus , I take a great deal of interest at what goes on and on balance if I compared British participants of question time , a political current affairs programme in the UK , I would honestly say that the Cypriot politicians , and by this I mean members of the Universally regognised Cypriot government , are no more politically and party opinionated than the British members of Parliament. Bearing in mind that all Cypriots have a much shorter fuse than the Brits , I think they are adequately eloquent and put their arguments forward in a civilised fashion. I havent seen the "duels " you refer in your post .
Regards