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[miltiades]

GCG UK, I believe you live in the UK and reading your posts I can see that your English is as good as mine ,if not better , but you state that I want to appease the Turkish Cypriots , nowhere in my posts did I state such a proposal. You misunderstand where I and many more Greek Cypriots stand on this issue. Firstly we do not have the power to either get the Turks or the Brituish bases out of Cyprus,this is an undisputed fact, we do not have friendly nations with the muscle to influence the Turkish army to pack up and leave. The only people that can influnce Turkey to pack up and go are the Turkish Cypriots , and yes they are my compatriots as much as they are yours and every other
Cypriot's. The problem we have is that they , Turkish Cypriots , do not feel comfortable with the idea that the Turkish army will depart leaving them in Cyprus for as long as people like Malakas , you and others express hatred and the wish to take matters into their own hands.You have expressed derogatory views on our Cyprus goverment , leaving it wide open for many Turkish Cypriots to compare your stance as no differenet to EOKA "B"
You ofcourse like myself have every right to put your views forward , but please be constructive.
We need each other to go forward for OUR CYPRUS . I stated earlier that my vote at the Annan plan was NO.

[GreekCypriotGurl_UK]

miltiades i agree on you that we do not have the power to get the turks or british out so we have no other solution in my apinion i am sorry if i accused you of appeasing the turks maybe i misunderstood. but i disagree with you on saying that the turkish Cypriots are the solution to the problem when infact the turkish Cypriots are part of the problem they used EOKA B as a excuse EOKA B was supported by America and Greece it had nothing to do with Greek Cypriots infact EOKA B also killed Greek Cypriots as well as Turkish Cypriots infact it was the turkish Cypriots who wanted Cyprus to be part of Turkey so they Used EOKA B as a excuse so they could find a excuse for Turkey to invade and the Turkish Cypriots are saying they want North Cyprus to be recgnoised as a turkish republican the Turkish Cypriots are no better then the illegal settlers and also the Turkish Cypriots do not see themselfs as Cypriots they see themselfs as Turks and are more closer to the Turkish military and settlers

[MR-from-NG]

GCG, you really should listen to miltiades and take on board what he says. He is a decent chap, he is thinking of the future of Cyprus, his children and grandchildren. I have read every one of his posts with admiration. I would be proud to have a friend like him. You on the other hand are running wild with your ultra nationalistic feelings, we all have deep feelings for our beliefs but yours and Malakas are at an unhealthy level.

I am offended at your comments about my nationality. Let me tell you where us Cypriot Turks stand on this issue, and trust me I am talking for 99.99% of TC's. We are Cypriots, we have more in common with you, Malaka and miltiades than Hasanoglu or Turkoglu of Turkey. We are proud to be Cypriots. I will go as far as saying we even have a bit of a friction between us. I am 53, I have never, ever introduced myself as a Turk, I have travelled the world and met a great many people, when asked my nationality my response is always Cypriot. If I feel I need to explain the situation of the island I do, otherwise I leave it at that.

You are in England, I urge you to make a few TC friends, see for yourself how much we have in common. You may be pleasantly surprised.

[GreekCypriotGurl_UK]

mrfromng

GCG, you really should listen to miltiades and take on board what he says. He is a decent chap, he is thinking of the future of Cyprus, his children and grandchildren. I have read every one of his posts with admiration. I would be proud to have a friend like him. You on the other hand are running wild with your ultra nationalistic feelings, we all have deep feelings for our beliefs but yours and Malakas are at an unhealthy level.

I am offended at your comments about my nationality. Let me tell you where us Cypriot Turks stand on this issue, and trust me I am talking for 99.99% of TC's. We are Cypriots, we have more in common with you, Malaka and miltiades than Hasanoglu or Turkoglu of Turkey. We are proud to be Cypriots. I will go as far as saying we even have a bit of a friction between us. I am 53, I have never, ever introduced myself as a Turk, I have travelled the world and met a great many people, when asked my nationality my response is always Cypriot. If I feel I need to explain the situation of the island I do, otherwise I leave it at that.

You are in England, I urge you to make a few TC friends, see for yourself how much we have in common. You may be pleasantly surprised.

mrfrogmn if you think all Cypriots are Cypriots why do you support the Turkish invasion why do you want Cyprus to stay divided? i seen your post before i know your true face you turkish Cypriots backstabbed us and asked Turkey to invade it was you who wanted reunifcation with Turkey your the nationalist i got no problem with Turkish Cypriots if they where to get the Turkish military and settlers out of Cyprus but i dont see it happening i only see turkish Cypriots asking the world to recognise the turkish north side of Cyprus as legal

mrfrogmn you justify genocide of greek Cyporiot in 1974 you welcomed turks to kill us with open arms

[miltiades]

GCG UK , I think you have not noticed that I said earlier Im 60 years old and lived through the EOKA period 1955-1960 until I left in 1961 and came to the UK , Im therefore well aquainted with the events that you so eloquently project in your posts..My problem with my Cypriot countrymen is that instead of concentrating their efforts to build bridges so that both Cypriot communities can live in peace that they so much deserve , on this beautiful paradise island of Cyprus , they are waisting their intellectual efforts in swimming around in a pool of hatred . What do you find so unacceptable in wanting to go forward and refrain fron delving into the past , citing attrocities that were commited by all Cypriots does not help.We need a solution to the Cyprus problem , the solution will come but we all must confess to ourselves our own sins first then we can ask the other side to be magnanimous and reciprocate.I believe that MRFROMNG is a genuine Cypriot and IM PROUD THAT HE INTRODUCES HIM SELF AS A CYPRIOT FIRST. Also believe that the vast majority of OUR TURKISH CYPRIOT COMPATRIOTS ARE
CYPRIOTS FIRST.LETS GO FORWARD LETS BUILD THE BRIDGE OF PEACE .
Please bear in mind that this Forum is widely read through out the world, not just by us but many more people.What impression do you want to give them , that of Malaka or Panheman . Thar we are biggots
and stuck in a warp zone?

LONG LIVE CYPRUS

[MR-from-NG]

GCG,

Please believe me when I tell you that we are all victims of circumstances. I will go so far as to include even the settlers in my assumption. Yes, believe it or not we are all victims.

I will reiterate, listen to miltiades, he is a wise gentleman, we can all learn from him.

[Viewpoint]

GCG UK , I think you have not noticed that I said earlier Im 60 years old and lived through the EOKA period 1955-1960 until I left in 1961 and came to the UK , Im therefore well aquainted with the events that you so eloquently project in your posts..My problem with my Cypriot countrymen is that instead of concentrating their efforts to build bridges so that both Cypriot communities can live in peace that they so much deserve , on this beautiful paradise island of Cyprus , they are waisting their intellectual efforts in swimming around in a pool of hatred . What do you find so unacceptable in wanting to go forward and refrain fron delving into the past , citing attrocities that were commited by all Cypriots does not help.We need a solution to the Cyprus problem , the solution will come but we all must confess to ourselves our own sins first then we can ask the other side to be magnanimous and reciprocate.I believe that MRFROMNG is a genuine Cypriot and IM PROUD THAT HE INTRODUCES HIM SELF AS A CYPRIOT FIRST. Also believe that the vast majority of OUR TURKISH CYPRIOT COMPATRIOTS ARE
CYPRIOTS FIRST.LETS GO FORWARD LETS BUILD THE BRIDGE OF PEACE .
Please bear in mind that this Forum is widely read through out the world, not just by us but many more people.What impression do you want to give them , that of Malaka or Panheman . Thar we are biggots
and stuck in a warp zone?

LONG LIVE CYPRUS

Bravo miltiades...what MRFROMNG says is correct about Turkish Cypriots but the only reason they feel they cannot commit to union with the south is trust, they cannot break away from their mother because the people they want to unite with do not give them the confidence to do so and those people are the Greek Cypriots.

[GreekCypriotGurl_UK]

mrfromng

Please believe me when I tell you that we are all victims of circumstances. I will go so far as to include even the settlers in my assumption. Yes, believe it or not we are all victims.

I will reiterate, listen to miltiades, he is a wise gentleman, we can all learn from him.

so now the illegal turkish settlers are victims lol but how are they victims who is forcing them to stay in those greek refugees homes they are victims because they got a free house belonging to a Cypriot refugee you pathetic mrfrogmn i dont even want to respond to you anymore i know your true face

[MR-from-NG]

GCG,

I cant help it if you have no heart. These settlers had nothing in Turkey and have again nothing here. Put yourself in their place for just one moment. They were promised a new life, a new chapter with possibly a better future. I can understand you blaming our politicians, in fact you can blame Denktas Senior but blaming the settlers is just not fair. They are now uncertain of their future, they have lost their identity. They would have a problem going back to nothing in Turkey, they have a problem as unwanted people in Cyprus.

Its not as if we are delighted with the settlers presence in Cyprus ourselves. We look different, we sound different and strange as it may seem we are culturally also very different. So in my heart I also see them as victims in all this.

My ideal is for these people to be compensated and given all the assistance possible and re-house them in Turkey. We all have to wait and see.

The important thing to remember here is that big players are now getting involved in developing in the North. Somebody posted that Roman Amromovich is investing a huge amount, the samegoes for Asil Nadir. Its imperative efforts are made from the ROC for the negotiations to begin. The longer this drags on the worst it will be for you guys. Please dont start with your silly theory that I am in favour of you losing your land and homes, I dont need Greek money or property, I have enough of my own.

[GreekCypriotGurl_UK]

viewpoint

Bravo miltiades...what MRFROMNG says is correct about Turkish Cypriots but the only reason they feel they cannot commit to union with the south is trust, they cannot break away from their mother because the people they want to unite with do not give them the confidence to do so and those people are the Greek Cypriots

viewpoint the turkish Cypriots are lying and making excuses they dont want union the only union they want is for N Cyprus to be a union with turkey they are backstabbers and liars they will never want greek refugess to get there homes back they want there turkish brothers the illegal settlers to stay in greek refugees homes i have not seen any turkish Cypriot protest for the illegal settlers to leave and give back the homes to greek cypriots have you ? all this they cant trust us nonesence is rubbish lets say for example Turkey withdrew its military from Cyprus today and the illegal settlers left and the turkish Cypriots got there homes back and so did greek refugees they would be given equal rights becasue Cyprus is part of the EU now the turkish Cypriots know this but they still make excuses that they cant trust greek Cypriots well i Dont trust them