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Postby kalahari » Wed Apr 26, 2006 10:05 pm

Not entirely sure that Malaka, having come so far in establishing that he is of a reasonable mind, would care to be lumped in with GreekCypriotGurl_UK.

Interested to see that she (she? I'm guessing she, forgive me if I'm wrong) comes originally from Cyprus, now resides in the UK and yet sees herself as Greek. Does that make me French?

No, hang on – it's the renaming thing again isn't it!

Passion for renaming territories, got to be Turkish!

All that "GreekCypriotGurl_UK" stuff was just to throw us off the scent.

And you very nearly had us. Cunning.
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Postby GreekCypriotGurl_UK » Wed Apr 26, 2006 10:27 pm

kalahari its none of your business where i am from

i know you hate Greek Cypriots like the some of the others on this chat forum who are pretending they are Greek Cypriots but really Turks

i want Illegal settlers out of Cyprus and the Turkish military out of Cyprus if you or the other turks dont like it then go to hell
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Postby stuballstu » Wed Apr 26, 2006 10:39 pm

Just caught up on reading of this forum after being away for a week.

Just like to add my 2 pence worth to what has been a very good debate started off by a what could be construed as a very controversial opening post.

The AP was by no manner of means an ideal plan, however it was better than nothing. What i cant understand is that it has taken 2 years for any dialogue of note to have taken place. Now the cynics may ask if that is linked to the up coming elections, however is there ever going to be as Annan recently said a "ripe" time to start negotiations.

As i have said in previous postings a major factor in Cyprus is a distinct lack of Cypriotness. This is why GC's celebrate Greek holidays and TC's celebrate Turkish holidays, do any of them celebrate any kind of Cypriot holidays?

From a personal point of view i can not see why the ROC has to fly the Greek flag at checkpoints, stadiums in fact most places were there is a flag pole you can almost guarantee there will be a Greek flag there. This is supposed to be an "independant" country. Also in the North the only reason i can see why the Turkish flag is displayed is because part of Cyprus is occupied by Turkey. As i have already had this discussion on a previous thread please dont defend the displaying of the Greek flag as part of our heritage. It may be part of Greek Cypriot heritage, you may talk the same language, share the same religion etc etc but there is no part of Cyprus occupied by Greece so why have the Greek flag flying.
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Postby kalahari » Wed Apr 26, 2006 10:41 pm

kalahari its none of your business where i am from

i know you hate Greek Cypriots like the some of the others on this chat forum who are pretending they are Greek Cypriots but really Turks

i want Illegal settlers out of Cyprus and the Turkish military out of Cyprus if you or the other turks dont like it then go to hell


Hey you're funny. Now I know that Malaka wouldn't want to be lumped in with you, cos you is a fruit cake!

I'm a Greek hating Turk am I? No, no, I'm not! I'm... I'm... a spaceship with pink flashy lights that flies around the... No! Wait! A kangaroo! That's it, I'm a kangaroo! Baaa! Baaa! That's right, a kangaroo that goes baaa! And you're the Pope with a propellor hat on!

Pass the ginger wine Miltiades my friend, we could all be needing some after this series of posts.
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Postby kalahari » Wed Apr 26, 2006 10:50 pm

Hiya folks

Now this is a bit of fun.

Turkey it was claimed is the 17th largest national economy in the world. Well, in terms of GDP, yes it is.

GDP stands for Gross Domestic Product and is defined as:

The total market value of all final goods and services produced in a country in a given year, equal to total consumer, investment and government spending, plus the value of exports, minus the value of imports. Wow.

So here are the rankings of a few countries I thought you might be interested to see, with their GDP in billions of dollars in the third column.

5 Germany........2,174
7 UK...............1,470
15 Australia...............465
17 Turkey...............443
23 Poland...............339
29 Saudi Arabia...............241
36 Greece...............189
64 UAE...............51
124 Cyprus...............11

So, although Turkey might appear to be relatively poor, compared to the UAE it's an economic powerhouse! How do they do that then?

(Dubai has some bloody good accountants.)
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Postby GreekCypriotGurl_UK » Wed Apr 26, 2006 11:09 pm

Why am i a fruitcake kalahari does it bother you that i say the truth about the Turks invaders and occupiers ?
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Postby kalahari » Wed Apr 26, 2006 11:15 pm

Stuballstu has raised an extremely valid point regarding the lack of Cypriot national identity – and one that find particularly interesting as I intend to become Cypriot.

Is this "We are Greece" thing just a hangover from Makarios? If so, has the existing Cypriot government taken any steps to affirm Cypriot national identity? If not, why not? Do they wish to become a puppet government to a seemingly reluctant Greek nation?

Educate me guys. As ever, I welcome your thoughts.

Love, Kal
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Postby kalahari » Wed Apr 26, 2006 11:19 pm

Why am i a fruitcake kalahari does it bother you that i say the truth about the Turks invaders and occupiers ?


Truth is in the eye of the beholder. Get it out with Optrex. :wink:
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Postby GreekCypriotGurl_UK » Wed Apr 26, 2006 11:23 pm

so i guess you know the truth then right kalahari :twisted:
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Postby andri_cy » Thu Apr 27, 2006 3:36 am

kalahari wrote:Stuballstu has raised an extremely valid point regarding the lack of Cypriot national identity – and one that find particularly interesting as I intend to become Cypriot.

Is this "We are Greece" thing just a hangover from Makarios? If so, has the existing Cypriot government taken any steps to affirm Cypriot national identity? If not, why not? Do they wish to become a puppet government to a seemingly reluctant Greek nation?

Educate me guys. As ever, I welcome your thoughts.

Love, Kal



I think a lot of the older generations have that hangup from Makarios. Also a lot of immigrant families. I find that the immigrant families, as far as their Cypriot or Greek heritage goes, are more stuck in the past than the people who actually live on the island. Its almost like their culture and language and tradistions stayed in the past around the time they left.
I think the newer generation of GC's are more toward the Cypriot side than the Greek. No one can deny we have a bopnd with the Greeks, since we speak similar languages, we believe in the same religion and have similar traditions. But I see in the younger Cypriots the urge to just be Cypriots, which is good. We hae to embrace our "greekness " if you will but in a way where we just implement it in things where it belongs , not in stuff like national holidays and all that.
When I was younger in school, I was a good student and when we had parades, since I was the best in school I could hold the Greek flag! Quite honestly I was pretty mad that the best held the Greek flag and the second best the Cyprus flag, so I made them switch it for that year. A lot of the teachers seemed confused lol . But I think my generation nderstood and applauded. So I think there is much hope for us.
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