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[malaka]

Just curious

How would every one react especially michalis5354 if the GC invaded next week and took back what they lost. Would it be justifiable.

[Bananiot]

Piratis wrote

The UK simply could not keep Hong Kong. In the case of Cyprus they had made it clear that they would never allow independence. While after World War II most colonies gained independence, this right was refused to Cypriots. This is why an armed struggle started in 1955.

That is not supported historically. Britain came forward (October 1946) with concrete proposals for the constitutional future of Cyprus, together with a plan for economic and social development. The ethnarchy (right with church) rejected all possible solutions but enosis and stayed away from the Constitutional Assembly (Diaskeptiki in Greek). AKEL said it would participate in the Assembly but reiterated its adherence to the cause of enosis! The assembly started on 1/11/1947 and went on till 12/8/1948 with total failure. A realistic chance was lost for an independence Cyprus mainly because of the vision of ethnarchy for enosis but AKEL was also to blame. Six Turkish Cypriots participated in the Assembly and their main concern was to avoid enosis, not the partition of Cyprus which was never on the agenda at the time.

EOKA's armed struggle was indeed the way the ethnarchy tried to achieve its goal of enosis. A Mid Summer's Night Dream that turned to a nightmare.

[cypezokyli]

Just curious

How would every one react especially michalis5354 if the GC invaded next week and took back what they lost. Would it be justifiable.

its not only about being "justifiable" , but if it sth sensful , or if it has chances of bringing any real results. and i am not talking militarily (bc if we consider that - we are reffering to stupidity) but then a solution is going to be a final one (clear partition...or for the chrysi avgi people : a totally greek island).

that will create with certainty more hate, more pain more revenge.

not an option. absolutely not an option.

[michalis5354]

"Stolen temporarily"? This is a new term. It would be a funny joke if it didn't involve 200.000 refugees that were forced out of their homes at gun point and are still not allowed to return.

Yes they are stolen temporarily as I have not heard Turkey denying to come forward to the negotiating table. If Papadopoulos had asked UN the start a new attempt to end the division the I dont think Turkey would deny this. If She did then your arguments of stealing would be right.But Turkey has not denied to negotiate for the sake of finding a solution to the conflict.

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[michalis5354]

This country is half million people. When you have fewer people you have less chances of having "great leaders", great sportsmen", "great artists" etc. It is a matter of numbers.

Therefore we have to choose the best from what is available, and this is what we do. Remember that in democracy the best is the one that the majority things he the best.

I accept what the majority thinks and I really dont mind but I have the right to express my own thoughts on the issue am I allowed to?

Do you think the majority approves what Papa is doing! Basically Doing Nothing!

[michalis5354]

Just curious

How would every one react especially michalis5354 if the GC invaded next week and took back what they lost. Would it be justifiable.

There is a better approach than that! Just Tell Papadopoulos to come forward to the negotiating table to take back what we lost!

What about the TCs losses! No reference on them hypocricy again?

[GreekCypriotGurl_UK]

Malaka Wrote

Actually Greek Cypriot I wrote that mrfrmng was bad mouthing me.
Well well well surprise surprise Someone else thinks the way I do.
Good on ya for speaking out I felt like I was the only one who felt that way Have been called and idiot stupid racist for the same remarks.

malaka i also been called a racist and aslo the people calling me a racist like stuballstu say i am wrong about the turkish Cypriots and i am a racist but how can i be wrong if there where no Turkish Cypriot invaders from 100 of years ago there would have been no turkish invasion in 1974 i want to know know how did the Turkish Cypriots whose ancestors where invaders and occupiers and killers from 100years ago become our neighbours and freinds ?

[cypezokyli]

Malaka Wrote

Actually Greek Cypriot I wrote that mrfrmng was bad mouthing me.
Well well well surprise surprise Someone else thinks the way I do.
Good on ya for speaking out I felt like I was the only one who felt that way Have been called and idiot stupid racist for the same remarks.

malaka i also been called a racist and aslo the people calling me a racist like stuballstu say i am wrong about the turkish Cypriots and i am a racist but how can i be wrong if there where no Turkish Cypriot invaders from 100 of years ago there would have been no turkish invasion in 1974 i want to know know how did the Turkish Cypriots whose ancestors where invaders and occupiers and killers from 100years ago become our neighbours and freinds ?

michael proposed objective sources.... but if you think that "turkish invaders are here the last 100 years" , even the propaganda school books, would do for a start.

if you believe this idea of ancestors, then you should also try and check , bc oyu might alo had some ancestors being occupiers and killers

[GreekCypriotGurl_UK]

Stuballstu

Maybe one day you will understand that the events of 1974 gave Turkey a reason to send troops to Cyprus

stuballstu your quote above gives me reason to beleive that your a turkish Settler in north cyprus or either your one of those English Turk Sympathizers living in the north of Cyprus since you think it was ok for Turkey to invade and kill Greeks then not only are you a racist your alos sadistic

[StuartN]

GreekCyprioyGurlUK, stuballstu has made his position quite clear to all..... if you choose to see something different then that's your own take on reality - and your problem. If you wish to be taken seriously on this forum then think a bit more clearly about what people are saying before jumping to erroneous conclusions.... or you might just find yourself being completely ignored. There are any number of terrific texts out there (and on the web) concerning the whole history of the problem. Take some time out, read and learn, and try not to listen to the hysterical ramblings.