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[michalis5354]

NOBODY, because they have no concern for Cyprus

And those who have real concerns for Cyprus What are they doing?

I dont believe that the problem is so complicated as it sounds to be!

[michalis5354]

When most civil parties have difficulties with domestic economics, they rely on courts to settle it out. When that becomes null,(because of Turkey) theres nothing left to argue for. Can't squeeze water out of a rock.
So all the other propaganda that Turkey comes out with, who will listen and care. NOBODY, because they have no concern for Cyprus. So having an above the world attitude that they showed for years, it'll never affect them except for getting in the EU. So playing big brother to TCs is only an act, but lets see how far they get with this EU adventure before they realize that the Greeks aren't folding to their crazy game of politics.

Courts are there to establish the law only. They dont offer guidlines to move things forward. Cyprus problem does not involve economics but the relationship between the two communities in the island and also the international law which has been violated not only by Turkey but by the decision of the authrities of Cyprus to make Cyprus a part of Greece!

This is the reason I asked. Show the example first to the TCs that Cyprus is an indepepndent country and then ask for the Turksih troops to go home.

It is Papadopoulos who claims that he represents the whole island as an independent sovereign state!

[GreekCypriotGurl_UK]

michalis

Courts are there to establish the law only. They dont offer guidlines to move things forward. Cyprus problem does not involve economics but the relationship between the two communities in the island and also the international law which has been violated not only by Turkey but by the decision of the authrities of Cyprus to make Cyprus a part of Greece!

the authorities did not violate international law at the time as makarios did not want Cyprus as part of Greece EOKA was not not the authority they where a nationalist group who wanted Cyprus as part of greece

[cypezokyli]

thats not exactly the whole story gcgirl.
the constitution was actually violated after 1963 , since we had the power only to ourselves.
ofcource the tcs are not innocent about that development, but if we really want to be honest that suited makarios at the time just fine...
so from a tc point of view (that is if that view interests us) our goverment was not that "legal".

[michalis5354]

Maybe you are right GC girl but also Greece has the biggest responsibility. The coup has been originated from Greece. Greece failed to provide any possible assistance and support in 1974 although it was a guarantor and a motherland country. Do you see what I am telling you. Although the coup has been originated from Greece. Greece failed to assist the GCs when they were in need and assistance.

One can claim that If the coupe was sucessful then now Cyprus would have been a poor greek island!

[michalis5354]

Also in my opinion Makarios should have done much more to protect the INDEPENDENCE of the republic. No strong laws had been established! I know his itentions may have not been ENOSIS but he ought to had established strong laws and direct people to the right direction.

MAny attrocities have happened during 1960 to 1974 that cost the lives of many innocent TCs and GCs and for this Makarios was largely to blame for!He failed to provide SECURITY to the people. He was the president of the republic and as such he was responsible to provide security.

It is easy to draw conclusions sitting on your chair without living the UNCERTAINTY of those days but this are my personal views!

[GreekCypriotGurl_UK]

yes Greece did fail the GCs the coup originated form Greece not our own authority so our authority did not break international law as you claim

[michalis5354]

This is the reason the cyprus problem has not been resolved and is seeking resolution through the UN. Turkey does not claim that the problem is over but is commited towards the UN .

What do you expect Turkey to do? Leave the island when both parties fail to find a mutual agreement?

[GreekCypriotGurl_UK]

michalis well doest everyone expect Turkey to leave Cyprus since its theres illegally? even the UN expects it to leave michalis dispite both parties not having mutual agreement that does not excuse Turkey to still be there the UN says Turkey is there illegally and should leave its Turkey breaking the UN resolutions i dont know what you expect

[Bananiot]

Here is an exerpt from the infamous Makarios speech at Panayia, his birthplace, on September 4 1962.

"Until this Turkish community forming part of the turkish race that has been a terrible enemy of hellenism is expelled, the duty of the heroes of EOKA can never be considered terminated".

Why do you think Makarios wanted, back in 1962, well before the first bullet was fired, to rid Cyprus of Turkish Cypriots? The answer is obvious and if there are people who think still that Makarios is a saint then I would advice them to wake up to the real world and see if we can salvage anything from the sorry state our leaders have left us in, while we applauded them loudly and noisily.