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[growuptcs]

To each their own

[michalis5354]

so is edorgan being constructive by admitting the Cyprus problem has not been resolved and yes i do expect Turkey to go home they should not be there illegally dont the GCs want there homes back in the north? dont the TCs want there homes back in the south thats what people want there homes but Turkey does not want to leave Cyprus EOKA and makarios are gone now so no use in blaming thme anymore and Cyprus is in the EU today and democratic so whats the Turkeys excuse for being in Cyprus still

These are all reasons why Papa should have come forward with a comprehensive plan and propose it to the UN! A comprehensive plan that would have included worldwide principles but also safeguarding the TC rights acquired in the 1960 agreements! Dont you think that this would have been a better idea to move things forward rather than waiting the UN to call us in NY to start negotiations?

UN have other more serious international issues to consider and they made it many times clear!

[growuptcs]

When most civil parties have difficulties with domestic economics, they rely on courts to settle it out. When that becomes null,(because of Turkey) theres nothing left to argue for. Can't squeeze water out of a rock.
So all the other propaganda that Turkey comes out with, who will listen and care. NOBODY, because they have no concern for Cyprus. So having an above the world attitude that they showed for years, it'll never affect them except for getting in the EU. So playing big brother to TCs is only an act, but lets see how far they get with this EU adventure before they realize that the Greeks aren't folding to their crazy game of politics.

[Bananiot]

The Cyprus issue is a political issue, not a legal issue to be solved in courts of law. I can hardly imagine if the EU efforts of Ankara backfire. We should be praying for Turkey to be accessed to the EU not boasting that we would block its entry. We need to look far ahead rather than just beyond our nose.

Michalis, shouln't you be church?

[michalis5354]

No Bananiot In Life there is nothing as I should ! But I may go some time afterwards! I think God judges everyone very fairly and this has nothing to do whether you go to church or not!

I feel very sleepy at the moment.If I go to church I will feel asleep there for sure! I dont even dare to open the TV channels at this point of time as the TV channels have been taken by the church.

[GreekCypriotGurl_UK]

michalis

These are all reasons why Papa should have come forward with a comprehensive plan and propose it to the UN! A comprehensive plan that would have included worldwide principles but also safeguarding the TC rights acquired in the 1960 agreements! Dont you think that this would have been a better idea to move things forward rather than waiting the UN to call us in NY to start negotiations?

michalis papa has come forward with the same plans
as any normal person whos country is under occupation for the occupiers to leave what is wrong with that ?

[Kikapu]

Kifeas,
You have written a very convincing piece, and for the sake of argument, lets say all is true. The question I have then is, which was raised by BAKALA few weeks ago I belive, when Grivas went on his killing spree, what would have happened to all the T/C if Turkey did not intervened. Who was going to stand in Griva's way? How do you think Cyprus would look today? Would the "all Greek" Cyprus today would look back and feel sorry for the completely wiped out T/C, or would just be comfortable having their "own Island" living as if nothing happened? Lets give the Turks a little credit for not wanting to wipe out the G/C completely, otherwise today would have had a "all Turkish" Cyprus face.

Which specific incident are you referencing to, when you say that Grivas went on his killing “spree?” Are you talking about an incident in 1963/64 period or about 1974?

Take your pick.

[malaka]

When most civil parties have difficulties with domestic economics, they rely on courts to settle it out. When that becomes null,(because of Turkey) theres nothing left to argue for. Can't squeeze water out of a rock.
So all the other propaganda that Turkey comes out with, who will listen and care. NOBODY, because they have no concern for Cyprus. So having an above the world attitude that they showed for years, it'll never affect them except for getting in the EU. So playing big brother to TCs is only an act, but lets see how far they get with this EU adventure before they realize that the Greeks aren't folding to their crazy game of politics.

Well said totally agree.
Maybe Michalis 5354 should read this.

[malaka]

There are many parameters in a problem. Seeing only one it is not the right way to go !

That is true there is also fact and fiction

[michalis5354]

michalis papa has come forward with the same plans
as any normal person whos country is under occupation for the occupiers to leave what is wrong with that ?

What I said is that much more thimgs he could have done!

Enforce the cypriot culture on the island.

Make an independent national anthem! Respect what you have signed!

Remove the Greek flags !

Inform and not misinform kids at school and especially tell them what happened in 1960 to 1974.

Joint Projects between the GC and TC communities.

Establish a Cypriot commitee that will devise ways to move things forward.

Enforce Strict Laws for those who violate the independence of the republic.

Once he has done that then Turkey will have less reasons to be on the island. When GCs want to be dependent with Greece then TCs also will want to be dependent to Turkey and this is when the problem becomes a Mix Japanese Salad!

The solution to this is Enforce the cypriot culture !And be fair!