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Postby StuartN » Fri Jun 02, 2006 3:18 pm

Not sure about the drugs, but the casino's and nightclubs - yes. Loads of vehicles seem to head north across the border for the nightclubs on the Lefkosa - Morphou road every night. Perhaps that's where the young GC's spend their money? - they've also a reputation as a haunt of the Natasha's - ( as in 'up and down like a natashas knickers'). The Casino's (what there are of them) and nightclubs (a couple) on the Kyrenia - Lapta road, and further down towards the Gecitkoy (Panagra) gorge seem to cater for more local clientelle..... But its no Aiya Napa - I can assure you.
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Postby cypezokyli » Fri Jun 02, 2006 3:24 pm

perecles wrote:I Completely sympathise with those people that lost their land and livelihood when the invasion happened and wouldn’t dream of purchasing a property that was on land that was legally owned by another person

I am assuming that If I bought a place built on land that had pre 1974 Turkish title that I would be ok.... is this true?

Also I would like to hear some more about the drugs trade and casinos in the North, does this really exist? I was hoping to leave all that rubbish behind here in the UK!

hi perecles and welcome to the forum.

if you want to buy a piece of land in the north , which belonged to a turkish cypriot before 1974 , and the owner has RoC title , then you should know two things :

if it is legal , it is more expensive.

under the circumstances you cannot according to the RoC buy or sell in the north. but , i would suppose that there would be no concequences if you did buy a piece of land that belonged to a tc. there is nobody to sue you.
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Postby Pasha » Sun Jun 04, 2006 6:09 pm

Im getting quite sick of the constant "Turk Bashing" which the majority of people on this forum like to take part in. I find it funny how a Brit is deemed a thief, scum and everything else but upon hearing that they live in South Cyprus suddenly become your best friend.

The constant barrage of "stolen this, stolen that" when it was your own side that said "that which is gained through bloodshed is not returned"

The general attitude many of you have towards other people, mainly consisting of personal attacks based on race, is disgusting.

You should be ashamed of yourselves.
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Postby Kifeas » Sun Jun 04, 2006 6:56 pm

Pasha wrote:Im getting quite sick of the constant "Turk Bashing" which the majority of people on this forum like to take part in. I find it funny how a Brit is deemed a thief, scum and everything else but upon hearing that they live in South Cyprus suddenly become your best friend.

The constant barrage of "stolen this, stolen that" when it was your own side that said "that which is gained through bloodshed is not returned"

The general attitude many of you have towards other people, mainly consisting of personal attacks based on race, is disgusting.

You should be ashamed of yourselves.


I beg you pardon but, which one from our side has said the above, nevertheless what is this supposed to mean? Since when the words of one or some persons constitute law and morality?

Anyway, Do you mean to say that you subscribe to the logic that says "that which is taken with bloodshed is not returned?" Do you? And what this claim is supposed to mean? That whatever Turkey illegally occupied and usurped in the north now belongs to them? Is this what you are saying?

I such a case, it is you that should be ashamed of himself!
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Postby Pasha » Sun Jun 04, 2006 7:22 pm

A heroic attempt to twist the meaning of my words, however it falls short. I was just merely stating that this was a example of Greek double standards.

The point im making is if the roles were reversed and the Greeks occupied Cyprus, it would have been "okay" to you guys. It's funny how that was their claim before the Turkish operation of 1974, and when the tables are turned suddenly it doesn't apply anymore.
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Postby Kifeas » Sun Jun 04, 2006 8:01 pm

Pasha wrote:A heroic attempt to twist the meaning of my words, however it falls short. I was just merely stating that this was a example of Greek double standards.

The point im making is if the roles were reversed and the Greeks occupied Cyprus, it would have been "okay" to you guys. It's funny how that was their claim before the Turkish operation of 1974, and when the tables are turned suddenly it doesn't apply anymore.


The only "heroic" attempts I can see are those you hilariously exert above in order to appease, rationalize and moralize the illegal ethnic cleansing of the G/Cs from the north and the illegal usurping of their properties by Turkey!

You are no different than the thief who when gets caught by the police and asked why he is stealing, he foolishly replies that he does it because other thieves also do the same!


Or like the murderer justifying why he commits murders by saying that others also do commit murders in life too, that he is not the only one, and that the police should also catch all the other murderers, before getting him!
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Postby mountainman » Sun Jun 04, 2006 8:21 pm

It seems to me that the Orams and other purchasers in the North are playing a gamble, if they buy cheaply enough and enjoy the property for long enough they win.

I personally paid a lot of money for a home in limassol, I could probably bought an similar place for a fraction of the cost in the North, if i held on to it for the next 30 years i'd be 80 and have had a shitload of spare cash invested, who's the mug??
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Postby Pasha » Mon Jun 05, 2006 1:27 am

Kifeas wrote:
Pasha wrote:A heroic attempt to twist the meaning of my words, however it falls short. I was just merely stating that this was a example of Greek double standards.

The point im making is if the roles were reversed and the Greeks occupied Cyprus, it would have been "okay" to you guys. It's funny how that was their claim before the Turkish operation of 1974, and when the tables are turned suddenly it doesn't apply anymore.


The only "heroic" attempts I can see are those you hilariously exert above in order to appease, rationalize and moralize the illegal ethnic cleansing of the G/Cs from the north and the illegal usurping of their properties by Turkey!

You are no different than the thief who when gets caught by the police and asked why he is stealing, he foolishly replies that he does it because other thieves also do the same!


Or like the murderer justifying why he commits murders by saying that others also do commit murders in life too, that he is not the only one, and that the police should also catch all the other murderers, before getting him!


I fail to see how you come to this conclusion. You say I'm "no different from a thief" or you have even gone as far as to compare me to a murderer! This is insane... but I expect nothing more than this kind of drivel from you anyway. I was making a statement about Greek double standards and suddenly I'm as bad as a murderer.

Yeah, right :roll:
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