Someone looking from the outside inwards, sees something different from someone on the inside looking outwards.
Different maybe. Objectively, it depends. In another thread you said that you have visited the casinos in the occupied areas. I hope you don't count yourself as objective outsider.
I do think of my view as objective, just because it is different from yours maybe you should have a little more respect for other people opinions as you may actually learn something new. Whats your basis for your opinion that i am not an objective outsider? Because i have visited casinos in the North? sitting beside many GC's in these establishments? i didnt know visiting casinos was a crime, it certainly isnt for me.
Quote:
Lets not kid ourselves on Britain, Greece, GC's Turkey and TC's are not all innocent in all of this. Personally i think Britain has a lot to answer for as they could have intervened at any time but didnt, well not on any large scale anyway. As a British citizen myself most Cypriots are right to question Britains "involvement" in the 60's and 70's. I am ashamed to admit that i do.
Yes, all of the parties had a negative involvement. UK didn't do in the 60s and 70s what it was supposed to do according to the Treaty of Guarantee. But UKs part of guilt is not what they have not done in the 60s and 70s, but what they did during that time and during most of the century before that when they kept Cyprus as a colony by force, exploited Cypriots and performed their divide and rule policies.
Whilst i agree that all the parties did have a negative involvement and Turkey was the only ones to intervene under the Treaty of Guarantee, Britains lack of involvement may have been for different reasons. Is it a Cypriot thing that you must blame someone else and are not willing to take any blame yourselves. You say that Britain kept Cyprus as a colony by force and had divide and rule policies the divide and rule but maybe correct but look what happened when Cyprus gained independence
I
took the quote from this post of yours: http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?p=79585#79585 . To me it was obvious that you considered TMT as an as bad as EOKA. If this is a misunderstanding from my part then I am glad.
I've re read the post and cant understand where you got the quote you gave or even the impression that i thought TMT were not as bad as EOKA.
What i said was:
Are you serious? This is not the first time that you have made reference to TMT and as usual go on about the Ottomans. Whilst both TMT and EOKA committed crimes against humanity you have to admit that EOKA backed by Greece did try to "ethnically cleanse" Cyprus of Turkish Cypriots on a large scale.
I have read it again and still dont know where you got this quote
Quote:
I have never said that TMT were not so bad
Piratis said.
You clearly said that TMT was not as bad as EOKA. I am glad that you now changed your mind.
What i clearly said was that TMT and EOKA committed crimes against humanity........
I cant see where i have said one is better than the other. The least you can do is apologise for your error.
So the 82% of GCs that has forced in the 67% of land by the Turkish invasion it was supposed to live in the 57% of land until Turkey decided to end its occupation? Is this what you mean?
Can you give an explanation of how you come to these figures?
