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[Piratis]

TURKEY received a blunt warning this week from the Council of Europe (CoE) not to worsen the human rights situation in Cyprus through the continuing illegal sale of Greek Cypriot refugee properties.

The warning included a demand to Turkey to respond within a week - by April 4 - on what steps it proposes to take "in order to avoid worsening the situation." However, this time stipulation, first made on Wednesday, was subsequently changed in a manner described as "scandalous" by some CoE officials, and Turkey was given until June to respond.

The normal procedure is for incomplete cases to be postponed for a week, and that is why Turkey was given until April 4 to act.

Senior CoE officials said it was "highly unsatisfactory and exceptional" that the review of the Cyprus refugees case was postponed till June, instead of just one week.

CoE officials revealed to The Cyprus Weekly that during Wednesday's meeting the Committee of Ministers examined a demand by Cyprus to impose a moratorium on the illegal sale of the refugee properties.

This was linked to a parallel demand for the consideration by the committee of Turkey's failure to implement the judgements of the Human Rights Court that found Turkey guilty repeatedly of violating the refugees rights, including usurping their properties, and ordered it to restitute the refugees' rights to return and to regain their properties.

Officials said the decision to cancel the Committee's initial one-week warning by allowing Turkey until next June to respond was reached without the consent of the Committee. The discussion of all of Turkey's human rights violations in Cyprus will now wait until June when the of missing persons and the freedom of religion of Greek Cypriots in the occupied north of the island will also be considered.

I hope that all those that illegally "buy" Greek Cypriot properties in the occupied areas will not pretend that they didn't know the laws when the judgment day will come for them.

[lysi]

Come on retired2cyprus what do you and those other brits who have bought stolen property have to say about the above post ?

[Svetlana]

Lysi

Most land in the north has been taken by Turkish and TC people, why do you constantly focus on the British?

Lana

[Piratis]

Lysi

Most land in the north has been taken by Turkish and TC people, why do you constantly focus on the British?

Lana

The focus should be on all the individual foreigners that illegally "bought" land in the occupied areas. (most of them are British, but there are many others as well). These people have nothing to do with Cyprus and the only reason they came here was to profit from the suffering of our refugees.

Most of the TCs that live in our homes accept that they do so temporarily until a solution is found. They were involved in the Cyprus problem either they like it or not and they didn't came to Cyprus to take advantage of our refugees.

The Turkish settlers are no less illegally living in Cyprus. However those people are mostly uneducated, and were mass transported here by Turkey. The crime was committed by the criminal Turkish government on their behalf.

So there is a distict difference between TCs who are part of the Cyprus problem either they like it or not, the Turkish settlers who are uneducated people mass transported here by Turkey trying to change the demographics of Cyprus, and the foreigners that have nothing to do with Cyprus, nobody forced them to come here, and the only reason they "bought" Greek Cypriot land in the occupied areas is because that property is cheaper because it is stolen. These are criminals without morals and no shame.

[lysi]

Svetlana, hundreds of british people every year are buying stolen property in the occupied north, these people are making lots of money for the turks and there fore making it more harder for a selttlement as the turks will not want to give back land that is making them so much money. Also svetlana why do you think it is so wrong to complain about those greedy british people who are buying homes built on stolen greek cypriot land ?
Do you expect greek cypriot refugees to sit back and say nothing while there land and property are sold of cheap to greedy british people by british based estate agents ?

[Svetlana]

Hi Lysi

As you know, I do not approve of anyone stealing land; I just get the feeling that people are over-emphasising the role of the British. At very best (or worst) British people are buying stolen goods - it is just a transfer of land already stolen by others.

If we look at all of the stolen land in the north (ie ignore the pre 74 TC and Foreign Title land) I doubt that more than 5% has been bought by British people.

So to be pedantic, foreign buyers are not property thieves, but rather, receivers of stolen goods. The land was stolen by others who then sold it to them. I do not have any definitive figures but I suspect that Foreign 'ownership' of stolen GC land in the north represents a very small percentage of stolen land.

I am not defening anyone's illegal actions, merely trying to put them in context.

Lana

[Rude Gal]

More concern for bricks & mortar than for the violation of human rights of an entire nation for last 42 years No wonder there's no prospect for a settlement of Cyprus problem

When will GCs get it? You can't have your cake & eat it? What's good for the geese is good for the gander! You stole TC political rights in Dec 1963 and have happily lived ever after (until 74 - but you not done badly since then either) and put an entire nation in limbo land. You got the chance to rectify it in 2004, and again the answer is no. So, sadly, your refugees will continue to suffer consequences and TCs now realising there is no likelihood of unification, and are moving on...I can't wait for day when there's an injunction against Larnaca airport!

Rather than moaning about British, Turks (or any others), why not look to those EOKA thieves who stole the lives and rights of TCs for past 42 years? When you come to terms with that, the answer to Cyprus problem & it's by-product the property issue can be solved.

[Piratis]

Rude girl the Turks have butchered 10s of thousand of GCs since the day the set their foot on Cyprus and they continue with the violations against us, insisting on illegalities and crimes as we speak.

You are illegally keeping 200.000 people out of their homes at gun point, and then you complain about your human rights ??????????? could you be more hypocrite than that??


Why don't you accept legality?
Why don't you accept human rights for all?

[Rude Gal]

Rude girl the Turks have butchered 10s of thousand of GCs since the day the set their foot on Cyprus and they continue with the violations against us, insisting on illegalities and crimes as we speak.

You are illegally keeping 200.000 people out of their homes at gun point, and then you complain about your human rights ??????????? could you be more hypocrite than that??


Why don't you accept legality?
Why don't you accept human rights for all?

Glad to see you are right where I left you nearly 2 months ago (I was getting worried you had changed given a post elsewhere).

We've been here before P, so I won't waste my fingers on keyboard. Suffice to say, in years to come, when the island is permanently partioned, it will be down to likes of you who have to twist/distort history to serve your ends and who have a real problem with all things Turkish.

[Piratis]

I have problem with the crimes and violations that the Turks continue to commit against us as we speak. Come again when Turkey will end her illegal occupation, then you will see a change. Not until then. If you expected that we will just accept the violations of our human rights and the occupation of our country I can assure you it will never happen.

Cyprus is partition because it has been the dream of Turkey and TCs since the 50s. Not because of me. Or you will deny this also?