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[etnies]

I am fairly new to the Cyprus problem.

My question is, when Turkey came to cyprus to protect the Turkish Cypriots why were such horriffic things done.

I have read articles which state that woman were raped by multiple men, there breasts were cut off and thrown around. I read that in 1996 a Greek Cypriot man was climbing a Turkish flag pole and he was shot and killed. Why are there memorials on the occupied side what glorify the turkish invasion. ect.

If the Turks were only coming to Cyprus to protect the Turkish cypriots, why were all of these things done to innocent people. Doesn't make sense.

Your Feedback is appreciated!

Thanks,

[Piratis]

The Ottomans (Turks) had Cyprus under their Ottoman Empire for 3 centuries (were Greek Cypriots were treated as second class people).

However at some point they lost Cyprus to the British. This is something they never really accepted since they considered Cyprus strategically important for them.

Greek Cypriots (82% of population) were hopping that in the end the British would hold some kind of referendum and allow Cypriots to decide their own destiny. However this didn't happen.

The plan for Turkey and many Turkish Cypriots since the 50s was to find a way to partition Cyprus. Turkey tried to invade a couple of times before 1974, but the best excuse was given to her in 1974 when the junta took over Cyprus.

Then under the pretext of protecting the Turkish Cypriots, invaded Cyprus taking 37% of the island and ethnically cleansing the majority of the population from the northern part Cyprus (about 200.000 people).

Of course the excuse existed in 1974. But as you say the horrific acts of the Turkish army can not be excused. Nor can the illegal occupation of Cyprus continue in 2006 with an excuse that expired 32 years ago.

When on one side you have a powerful country of 60 million people and on the other side a country of half million, you can understand that the powerful only needs an excuse to enforce his will on the weak. This is what happened in Cyprus.

[etnies]

That is sad. We as people have to ask ourselves, why our world has become how it has?

What is happending between Cyprus and the occupied side now?

[etnies]

Seems to me that the best solution would be for the Turks to return the land back to the Greeks. That way the both sides can come to peace.

Along with Turkey pulling out, turkey then will be albe to be apart of the EU.

I know this sounds all to easy. It makes sense though, in my eyes it would be the responsible and mature thing to do.

[Mills Chapman]

Welcome to Cyprus Forum, etnies!

[lysi]

etnies, when the mainland turks steal something they never ever volunteer to return it. The turks are now making so much money from selling stolen greek cypriot land , casinos , heroin and prostituition that they are not willing to return any land back to there rightful owners.
Also they expect to become a member of the EU while at the same time still occupying greek cypriot land.
Remember also that a lot of greek cypriots dont seem willing to kick up a fuss and complain to there government about the lack of progress in finding a settlement, the greeks also sit back and do nothing while greedy british and turkish estate agents advertise and sell there land .

[Sotos]

Seems to me that the best solution would be for the Turks to return the land back to the Greeks. That way the both sides can come to peace.

Along with Turkey pulling out, turkey then will be albe to be apart of the EU.

I know this sounds all to easy. It makes sense though, in my eyes it would be the responsible and mature thing to do.

It makes sense but when they have one of the top 10 armies in the world they couldn't care less about sense, legality, human rights ...

[tcklim]

Etnies, i think you sound slightly immature in your postings. The situation is MUCH more complicated than that so you should do a little reading first......

Part of the reason why there is no solution is the pathetic blabber and accusations between both sides, as well as the consistent hatred and distrust between the populations as is evidently displayed above but so often denied at the same time.

Stubborness, pride and even stupidity..... that;s why. But the average Cypriot will simply blame it on the evil foreigners....

[Piratis]

tcklim, what you say would be true if Cypriots were allowed to take decisions for the own island in a democratic way by themselves.

Were they ever allowed to do that? Unfortunately no.

Throughout history Cyprus had been controlled by outside forces. When we gained "independence" they didn't even allow us to write our own constitution and when we dared to propose changes to the constitution of our own country it was considered a crime by some!!!!

Who are responsible are those who have the control, not the slaves and the oppressed.

Lets hope that finally one day the control will be given to Cypriots themselves without foreign countries to force on our country their own will and violate our human and democratic rights. When this happens I assure you that Cyprus will be no worst than Turkey, UK, or any other European country.

But when in Cyprus we have a foreign occupation it is very provocative to tell us that we should blame ourselves for it.

The occupation of Cyprus is illegal. Who force this illegality is Turkey, not Cypriots.

[tcklim]

Stop it ... really, stop desperately trying to find excuses for us, the world isn't buying it and neither is anyone else apart from some Cypriots. Fooling ourselves is not a way to a solution. Cyprus has a deep and complicated history, but you can't tell me that the events of 300 years ago have any effect on us now whatsoever. We can change the constitution NOW (provided that it is agreed upon by vote and not just by corrupt and inept politicians), we can create our OWN SOLUTION, talk to each other, instead of constantly blaming foreign powers for our problems then insisting they are our only solution, if that isn't idiotic i don't know what is...

Wake up for gods sake, the reason there is no solution is our mentality, not england, not america, not ANYTHING else..... Paps doesnt wanna meet, constantly belittles the other side and whatnot.... excellent way forward, that a strategist. His plan to gain leverage outof EU will never work and the island will remain partitioned the way his politics are going...

God help CY cos we certainly arent helping ourelves....

And Piratis, stop copying and pasting in every thread, it's getting repetitive and doesnt help. I know your posts off by heart now i dont even have to read them.