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[insan]

And the genuine Cypriot identity will be created by separating people into Greeks and Turks, with separate flags and citizenships and with just a loose association between them?

They had already been seperated since 1962, even 40s... I'm against seperate flags. There should only be one flag and citizenship. I assume you confuse citizenship with sub-citizenship.

And after part of the population is used to be given a 4.5 more power as an award for staying separate,

It's not an award. It is for political safe guard of two communities. It is not directly related individuals voting power. It has a deeper meaning which you don't seem to understand. Both communities of federation will use one man one vote system to elect their own representatives for legislature assembly.

they will then come and give up their now legal super privileges for the sake of unity? Do you think you are talking to kindergarten children?

As long as you are the one whom I talk to, I feel like talking with kindergarden children...

What you are asking from us is this: "Give us part of Cyprus to legally own just for ourselves, and then later we will decide what we will do with our part. Maybe we we will decide to reunite". Or maybe, I say, you will just decide to totally take that part of Cyprus, which you never owned in the first place.

What I'm asking and telling for more than a thousand times is very clear but narrow minded "kids" like you don't seem to understand this. How will a part of Cyprus be legally owned by TCs while %20 of its residents would be constituted by GCs with full political rights? But as i said a kid like you will newer understand the essential of the issues.

Federation (not confederation, not association) dear insan, was the last compromise. We are just waiting for you to make the same compromise. Don't expect from us more.

As I told you Cyprus problem is not a matter of compromises and no compromises have been made so far. Taksim vs Enosis led us todays circumstances... Cyprus has its own circumstances and what has to be done to solve this problem is taking all these special elements into consideration and finding the logical answers for how tos...

[-mikkie2-]

How will a part of Cyprus be legally owned by TCs while %20 of its residents would be constituted by GCs with full political rights?

The A plan does not give full political rights to the 18% (not 20%) of GC's that would return under TC state.

I assume that you would want the GC's to have full political rights under the TC component state?

Under the current plan, derogations will be removed after 20 years but even in that event, there will be restrictions on the number of GC's that could live in the north - they cannot exceed 1/3 of the TC population in any area and they still won't have full political rights!

[insan]

The A plan does not give full political rights to the 18% (not 20%) of GC's that would return under TC state.

According to A Plan the GC population of TC constituent state will not exceed %21 of total TC population until Turkey becomes a full member of EU. This means, approx. %21 of the total population of TC constituent state will comprise of GCs.

I assume that you would want the GC's to have full political rights under the TC component state?

Yes.

Under the current plan, derogations will be removed after 20 years but even in that event, there will be restrictions on the number of GC's that could live in the north - they cannot exceed 1/3 of the TC population in any area and they still won't have full political rights!

Restrictions on right to settlement, buy property and 1/3 rule is needed for keeping the balance of the powers, political stability and social structure of TC constituent state. As i stated in some of my previous posts; if some day Cypriots could have fused into a single uniqe Cypriot identity, all restrictions will automatically be lifted and the Cypriot nation dream will come true.

[-mikkie2-]

Under the A 5 plan, only 18% of GC's could return under TC control.

[brother]

The A5 plan has a lot of flaws, so many in fact we need to revise a cyprus plan, but the bits in the A5 plan we like we can adopt and the parts that are lacking we can compromise on, in short if we all really want unity then we can achieve it.

[insan]

Under the A 5 plan, only 18% of GC's could return under TC control.

Correct. %21 was previous plan's provision.

[brother]

And whats the point.......

[metecyp]

And whats the point.......

Exactly. Personally, I don't care if it's 18% or 21% or even 30%. These parameters are not that important. The important point is that TCs are majority in their own federal state.

[brother]

Well they are trying to control that aswell in there own way, by ensuring a bigger presence and counting in population growth etc. over the years.

[insan]

Exactly. Personally, I don't care if it's 18% or 21% or even 30%. These parameters are not that important. The important point is that TCs are majority in their own federal state.

The percentage of GCs who will live under TC administration is very important because they should be given full political rights and their share of resources. More than %18-21 can negatively affect the political, economical and social structure of TC constituent state when the current social, political, economical structures of TC community taken into consideration. You, I and some others may personaly don't bother with it but try to see it with the public eye of TC community.