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[brother]

Now thats a debate worth getting into what would we tc accept and not, that i would like to see.

[-mikkie2-]

In my opinion, Turkey and TCs mainly share the same views regarding the solution of the Cyprus problem.

Really? Who is leading whome I wonder?

What would have happened if TCs have controlled themselves, as you assume?

For one they would be able to defend their individual human rights. But do they want to do that after stealing what did not belong to them?

Do you think the majority of TCs will ever accept political unequality on legislative and judicial bodies?

In my opinion, government or any other job should be given on merit and ability, not on ethnicity!

Do you think they will ever accept abolishment of Turkey's intervention right and withdrawal of all Turkish troops?

So where are the TC's compromising? If they cant compromise on this issue there will not be a solution!

[brother]

mikkie,

firstly majority of tc are not thieves, so stop implying that, they live in the homes vacated by gc as that was the only alternative as they left there homes in the south, so keep it tasteful.

Secoundly i think all non cypriot millatary should leave but turkeys intervention rights i would not give up, my reason behind this is that if turkey had not intervened in 1974 there would be no tc to have this conversation with you now and the E.U are not capable or have the balls to really protect people or the Bosnia tradgedys would not have happened.

Positions in goverment or anywhere at that should be on merit and ability....FULLSTOP

[metecyp]

In my opinion, government or any other job should be given on merit and ability, not on ethnicity!

So you're against affirmative action in the US? You don't think that some minority members should be given priority in college admissions in order to get the minority in the circle of first-class citizens?

[-mikkie2-]

You don't think that some minority members should be given priority in college admissions in order to get the minority in the circle of first-class citizens?

This just makes my point!

On the one hand you want to be treated as equals when it suits you and on the other you want to be treated as a minority in order to get favours.

TYPICAL TYPICAL TYPICAL.

[brother]

mikkie,

i think it all boils down to one thing and thats security, all cypriots one way or another have unfairly been victimised and hence everyone to themselves are looking for unrealistic security assurances, hence the gc no turkish soilders or guarantor from turkey is there wants as the tc want an equal standing in everything even though they make up only 20% of the island.

What we need is a true person of the cypriot people who we all trust no matter there tc or gc heritage to take the bull by the horns and show all cypriots they do not need to be paranoid about the others intentions.

The real question is do we have that hounarable leader out there that will represent all cypriots as one with no biased intentions that can gain the trust and respect of both communities.

[-mikkie2-]

I agree with you to a large extent but are we going to wait for 50 years so that all people that have any links to the past are long gone so that we can move forward?

[brother]

No that is not a good idea waiting another 50 years, as i would be dead or near to it and within my lifetime i would like to see our island united and in peace hence we must keep our eyes open for that person who i believe is out there and in the meantime try and keep the current administrations in check to limit there damage to our fragile population and island.

Mikkie i honestly believe that the true cypriot is out there who can win over everyone and bring peace if enough of us are looking for him/her we will find them in this lifetime.

This all might seem a bit like nevada dream but it is dreams that became reality that changed our world.

Peace upon you my brother.

[insan]

I said:

Do you think the majority of TCs will ever accept political unequality on legislative and judicial bodies?

-mikkie- said:

In my opinion, government or any other job should be given on merit and ability, not on ethnicity!

I agree with that, but what you said is irrelevant with what i said. The representatives of legislative and judicial bodies should be comprised equal number of meritorious/capable TCs and GCs. This is what I call "political equality". On executive body all positions and jobs must be shared according to population ratio(20/80). And this is what i call fairness on executive body.

[metecyp]

This just makes my point!


On the one hand you want to be treated as equals when it suits you and on the other you want to be treated as a minority in order to get favours.

TYPICAL TYPICAL TYPICAL.

Affirmative action is in place in most of the states in the US because it's known that minorities (blacks, hispanics, etc.) are not as lucky as the majority (whites) both economically and socially. Since whites of the US have the will to make the playing ground plain for all races, they generally accept the affirmative action. They (whites)want everyone to be equal and they know that there's no alternative than favoring the minorities in college admissions, etc. in order to get these people involved in the society (rather than exploiting them as cheap labor).

You said the following.

Positions in goverment or anywhere at that should be on merit and ability....FULLSTOP

This means theoratically you're against affirmative action in the US. It means that you don't believe in the affirmative action and you believe that it's a tool "exploited" by the minority to gain advantage over the majority. I just wanted to confirm this.

You might wonder why this is important. It's important because it shows how insensitive and inflexible you are against people other than your kind.